RE: Summing up and moving on (I hope)

OK sorry, "can we talk about XP without talking about programming?" YES.
And we can even talk about XP without actually doing any of the
practices. In the example below we can talk about planning without doing
planning. "How would planning fit into our SOP?" How would we do
planning without using story cards (that ain't gonna happen here,
period). How can we do "stories" without an onsite customer in the XP
sense, and without the "story cards" in the XP sense?

Stuff like that...

Glen B. Alleman
> From: Ron Jeffries 
[>] snip
> 
> OK, but then I don't understand your original point when you said:
> 
> >  Someone posted
> > awhile ago a question of "can you have XP without talking about
> > programming?" Yes, we do it also most every day. Programming is but
one
> > of our activity in the SOP.
> 
> I would have thought that XP planning, for example, was XP without
> programming.
> So I'm not understanding what the "someone" was after. Or I'm not
> understanding
> /something/, anyway ...
> 
> Can you help me out?
> 
> Ron 


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