RE: Summing up and moving on (I hope)
"Alleman, Glen B." <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:18:49 -0700
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Ron, > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Jeffries [>] snip [>] Good description of a well developed CIO conversation. The person I work for might be heard to speak in that style. The CEO of our firm (project) would use the alternative style though - cut the Zen Master crap, get IT to work or I'll find someone how will. Now his view of the world is through the eye of a steel worker and construction boss, but that view is common in electric utilities and petrochem as well, and likely very uncommon in banking and retail. Just to set the scene - the CEO rides a Harley, (not as gentleman's hobby), has a monster truck (Dodge V10 dually) and wears a "real" 10 gallon hat and ostrich skin boots. One of his new deputies was a "real" rodeo rider (bull riding I'm sure, I didn't stick around long enough to find out). So there are ALL KINDS of folks around who have influence over IT and its methods. But in the end, yes it would nice to have those informed, thoughtful conversation regarding the introduction of new agile methods...but alas there are many worlds in which they are unlikely to be accepted with further pain and suffering. > I think the tone in something like the above comes from trust or basic > mutual > respect. It comes from meeting half way. It seems to me to be unlikely to > come > from spanking everyone whom we suspect of wearing tie dye. I'd like to see > more > discussion of the real business issues, and less spanking. > > But I could be wrong to want that, or unrealistic to expect it. > > Ron [>]Glen B. Alleman ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/CBxunD/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/NhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: extremecustomering-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/