Re: [extremeprogramming] What has changed for you over the past 20 years?
"Ron Jeffries" <[email protected]> Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:43:22 -0500
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--Apple-Mail=_08A8D74B-B3BB-43BE-9D42-B8BCA832AA15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In my view this should never, ever, be done: > On Dec 6, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Eb Alson <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Imposing at the right altitude is critical then because =E2=80=9CUsing X= P or doing TDD=E2=80=9C can also be the goal/standard that a CTO sets. Ron Jeffries ronjeffries.com <http://ronjeffries.com/> There's no word for accountability in Finnish.=20 Accountability is something that is left when responsibility has been subt= racted.=20 --Pasi Sahlberg -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160464): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160464 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/39418691/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/61983806= 5/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --Apple-Mail=_08A8D74B-B3BB-43BE-9D42-B8BCA832AA15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset= = =3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">In my view this should ne= ver, ever, be done:<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"c= ite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 6, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Eb Alson <<= a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrot= e:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span style= = =3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 18px; font= -style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spac= ing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; whi= te-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-d= ecoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Impos= ing at the right altitude is critical then because =E2=80=9CUsing XP or doi= ng TDD=E2=80=9C can also be the goal/standard that a CTO sets.</span>= </div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: nor= mal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-= wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white= -space;" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collap= se: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: norm= al; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line= -height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; te= xt-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; bord= er-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-str= oke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: sp= ace; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span class=3D"Appl= e-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font= -family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align= : -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal= ; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decoratio= ns-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=3D""><br cl= ass=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">Ron Jeffries</div><div class=3D""><a href= = =3D"http://ronjeffries.com" class=3D"">ronjeffries.com</a></div><span clas= s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: = 0px;"><div class=3D"">There's no word for accountability in Finnish. <= /div><div class=3D"">Accountability is something that is left when responsi= bility has been subtracted. </div><div class=3D"">--Pasi Sahlberg</div= ></span></span></div></span></div> </div> <br class=3D""></body></html> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160464">View/Reply Online (#160464)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= = =3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20What%20has%20changed%20for%20y= ou%20over%20the%20past%2020%20years%3F">Reply To Group</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= = =3DPrivate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20What%20has%20change= d%20for%20you%20over%20the%20past%2020%20years%3F">Reply To Sender</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/39418691/2417047">Mu= te This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/post">New Topic</a><br= > <br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/editsub/2417047">Your Su= bscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner<= /a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/= xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --Apple-Mail=_08A8D74B-B3BB-43BE-9D42-B8BCA832AA15--