Re: [extremeprogramming] What has changed for you over the past 20 years?

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You can't stop believing in team self-organization because a team will
ALWAYS self-organize in some manner. They might not organize in a way that
gives you the results you need. Sure that's possible. Your response to that
is one of several approaches which obviously includes mandating/imposing
certain practices ala factory workers at the dawn of scientific management.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:49 PM Slava Imeshev via Groups.Io <imeshev=
[email protected]> wrote:

> Imposing best practices may be needed to get things done. For example:
>
> - The quality may not be where it should be. Add unit testing and TDD.
> - The team is overworked. Add planning game.
> - Projects are late. Add CI.
>
> Etc...
>
> I stopped believing in team's self-organization long ago. There are
> luminaries like XP founders. There are amazing individuals who can do it
> and and I worked with them.  Those usually make up 5-10% of them team. The
> rest requires couching, education, encouragement, pushing forward and yes,
> imposing and enforcing best practices because were are paid for getting
> stuff done in time and with quality. Without imposing, as harsh as this
> word can be, teams descent to run-as-they can 80 hour weeks...
>
> Slava
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You can&#39;t stop believing in team self-organizatio=
n because a team will ALWAYS self-organize in some manner. They might not o=
rganize in a way that gives you the results you need. Sure that&#39;s possi=
ble. Your response to that is one of several approaches which obviously inc=
ludes mandating/imposing certain practices ala factory workers at the dawn =
of scientific management.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 2:49 PM Slava Imeshev via G=
roups.Io &lt;imeshev=3D<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">yahoo.com@gro=
ups.io</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Imposing best practices may=
 be needed to get things done. For example:<div><br></div><div>- The qualit=
y may not be where it should be. Add unit testing and TDD.</div><div>- The =
team is overworked. Add planning game.</div><div>- Projects are late. Add C=
I.</div><div><br></div><div>Etc...</div><div><br></div><div>I stopped belie=
ving in team&#39;s self-organization long ago. There are luminaries like XP=
 founders. There are amazing individuals who can do it and and I worked wit=
h them.=C2=A0 Those usually make up 5-10% of them team. The rest requires c=
ouching, education, encouragement, pushing forward and yes, imposing and en=
forcing best practices because were are paid for getting stuff done in time=
 and with quality. Without imposing, as harsh as this word can be, teams de=
scent to run-as-they can 80 hour weeks...=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Sl=
ava</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>blog: <a href=3D"http://=
eikonne.wordpress.com/" rel=3D"me nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://eikonn=
e.wordpress.com</a></div><div>LinkedIn: <a href=3D"http://linkedin.com/in/e=
benezer-ikonne" target=3D"_blank">http://linkedin.com/in/ebenezer-ikonne</a=
></div>
<div>twitter: @eikonne</div></div></div></div></div>

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