Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering
"Chet Hendrickson" <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:36:33 -0500
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--Apple-Mail=_367E203A-9485-4E2E-B892-01E6711F2D7E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Might even get Ron to show up =09 Chet Hendrickson [email protected] Tel 248.345.7258 http://www.hendricksonxp.com > On Dec 17, 2019, at 1:54 AM, John Welty <[email protected]> wrote= : >=20 > I could drive to Detroit if need be. I'm in eastern Iowa.=20 > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>= <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on be= half of Steve Ropa via Groups.Io <[email protected] <mailto:s= [email protected]>> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 10:55:08 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <= [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering > > You know, there=E2=80=99s a bunch of us XP=E2=80=99ers up in Detroit the= se days too, I can ask around about that. > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for Wi= ndows 10 > > From: George Paci <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering > > From the replies, it looks like we can do this in three locations: > > * Washington, DC > > * London > > * Lisbon > > While it would be cool to try to do them all on the same day and > videoconference or something, it might make more sense to run one, then > incorporate lessons learned into the others. > > I suggest discussing the format in this thread, and scheduling for > individual locations in their own threads. > > ** Format: > > Todd brought up Open Space, and I think at least part of the day should > have that kind of participant-directedness. > > Todd also mentioned that he has some interactive workshops, which is the > kind of thing I was thinking of. In particular, I would like most of > the time to either be hands-on (coding, integrating, deploying, etc.) or > reflecting directly on what we learned from hands-on activity or how we > can improve it. > > I also want us to share our Best Tricks (either coding, or coaching, or > otherwise). > > ** Programming content: > > Steve mentioned The Dude's Code Jams, and giving something to the > community. My present company has a couple existing projects for > not-for-profits that might benefit from contributors; I'll ask about > that. Bob Payne is local to DC, and I know he's connected to some > not-for-profit projects, as is George[1]. > > If we're thinking about the programming or XP community, I don't think > there's any dearth of ideas for smallish applications that would improve > things. (Maybe that deserves a thread of its own?) > > ** Schedule: > > This will depend on the location, so I'll start a new thread for DC. > Feel free to start threads for your location. > > =E2=80=94George > > On 12/5/19 3:22 PM, George Paci wrote: > > > Who would be interested in physically getting together for a > > substantial period of time (8 hours or a few days) to just plain > > practice the way we do XP (and related things) today? At the end, we > > could make a list of things we saw that aren't common knowledge, and > > briefly explain them. > >=20 > > The code could be one or more (probably Open Source) projects that we > > bring. Each project could be in a different language; part of what we > > need to know is how to deal with languages and systems we don't > > understand yet. > >=20 > > This is just a vague idea at the moment, but for what it's worth, I > > can provide space for a couple dozen people to code (in a sunny, > > climate-controlled room) near Washington, DC. > >=20 > > =E2=80=94George > >=20 > > "I used to think that the brain was the most important organ in > > body. Then I realized who was telling me this..." - Emo Phillips > >=20 > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160508): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160508 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/67202106/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/61983806= 5/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --Apple-Mail=_367E203A-9485-4E2E-B892-01E6711F2D7E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset= = =3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Might even get Ron to sho= w up<br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: nor= mal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; lin= e-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; t= ext-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -we= bkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: spac= e; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><tabl= e border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"500" height=3D"= 78" style=3D"orphans: auto; widows: auto; margin: 0px; border: 1px solid rg= b(234, 234, 234);" class=3D""><tbody class=3D""><tr style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; fo= nt-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: au= to; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:= normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><td width=3D"145" valign=3D"middle" align=3D"center" class=3D"">= <img src=3D"http://www.hendricksonxp.com/images/132329_logo_final.jpg" bord= er=3D"0" width=3D"102" class=3D""></td><td rowspan=3D"2" width=3D"160" heig= ht=3D"78" valign=3D"middle" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: verdana; = font-size: 9px;" class=3D""><div id=3D"clientNameToReplace" class=3D"">Chet= Hendrickson</div><div id=3D"titleToReplace" class=3D""></div><div id=3D"em= ailToReplace" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D= "">[email protected]</a></div></div></td><td rowspan=3D"2" width=3D"16= 0" height=3D"78" valign=3D"middle" align=3D"right" class=3D""><div style=3D= "font-family: verdana; font-size: 9px;" class=3D""><div id=3D"phoneToReplac= e" class=3D"">Tel 248.345.7258</div><div id=3D"faxToReplace" class=3D""></d= iv><div id=3D"webAddressToReplace" class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.hendric= ksonxp.com" class=3D"">http://www.hendricksonxp.com</a></div></div></td></t= r><tr style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: nor= mal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; lin= e-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-= transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -web= kit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""> </tr></tbody></table></div></div></div> <div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">O= n Dec 17, 2019, at 1:54 AM, John Welty <<a href=3D"mailto:john@weltyauto= mation.com" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br cla= ss=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D= "font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter= -spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none= ; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t= ext-decoration: none; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-famil= y: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">I could drive to Detroit if nee= d be. I'm in eastern Iowa.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </spa= n></div><hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family= : Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal= ; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-inde= nt: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -web= kit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; w= idth: 855.53125px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fo= nt-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-cap= s: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; di= splay: inline !important;" class=3D""></span><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir= =3D"ltr" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-= size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: nor= mal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tran= sform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-wi= dth: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-se= rif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span cla= ss=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:extremeprogramm= [email protected]" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"= ">[email protected]</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb= sp;</span><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"colo= r: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">extremeprogramming@groups.= io</a>> on behalf of Steve Ropa via Groups.Io <<a href=3D"mailto:stev= [email protected]" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underli= ne;" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>><br class=3D""><b cl= ass=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday= , December 16, 2019 10:55:08 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span cl= ass=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:extremeprogram= [email protected]" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D= "">[email protected]</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n= bsp;</span><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"col= or: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">extremeprogramming@groups= .io</a>><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-co= nverted-space"> </span>Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gatherin= g</font><div class=3D""> </div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue"= vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helveti= ca; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-we= ight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-= stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div class=3D"x_WordS= ection1"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-fami= ly: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">You know, there=E2=80=99s a bunch of u= s XP=E2=80=99ers up in Detroit these days too, I can ask around about that.= </div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size= : 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: = 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class= = =3D"">Sent from<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href= =3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" style=3D"color: blue= ; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">Mail</a><span class=3D"Apple-conv= erted-space"> </span>for Windows 10</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" styl= e=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;"> </p><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-w= idth: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" cla= ss=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-famil= y: Calibri, sans-serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=3D""><b class=3D= "">From:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href=3D"m= ailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" cl= ass=3D"">George Paci</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:<span class=3D"Ap= ple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, December 16, 2019 4:57 PM<br = class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </s= pan></b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: blu= e; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>= <br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">= </span></b>Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering</div></di= v><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11= pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in = 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"= ">From the replies, it looks like we can do this in three locations:</div><= p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;= font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in= 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&= nbsp; * Washington, DC</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0= in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>= <div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib= ri, sans-serif;" class=3D""> * London</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" s= tyle=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sa= ns-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11p= t; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""> * Lisbon</div><p cl= ass=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; fon= t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0= 001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">While= it would be cool to try to do them all on the same day and</div><div style= = =3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;" class=3D"">videoconference or something, it might make more sense t= o run one, then</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11p= t; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">incorporate lessons learne= d into the others.</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0= .0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div= style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, = sans-serif;" class=3D"">I suggest discussing the format in this thread, and= scheduling for</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11p= t; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">individual locations in th= eir own threads.</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0= 001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div s= tyle=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sa= ns-serif;" class=3D"">** Format:</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"mar= gin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">= </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-fam= ily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Todd brought up Open Space, and I thi= nk at least part of the day should</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.000= 1pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">have th= at kind of participant-directedness.</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D= "margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri= f;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font= -family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Todd also mentioned that he has s= ome interactive workshops, which is the</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in = 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">ki= nd of thing I was thinking of. In particular, I would like most of</d= iv><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca= libri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">the time to either be hands-on (coding, inte= grating, deploying, etc.) or</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; f= ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">reflecting di= rectly on what we learned from hands-on activity or how we</div><div style= =3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;" class=3D"">can improve it.</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"m= argin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;= "> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-f= amily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I also want us to share our Best Tr= icks (either coding, or coaching, or</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0= 001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">other= wise).</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; fon= t-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"ma= rgin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"= class=3D"">** Programming content:</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"= margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif= ;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-= family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Steve mentioned The Dude's Code Ja= ms, and giving something to the</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt= ; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">community.= My present company has a couple existing projects for</div><div style=3D"m= argin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;= " class=3D"">not-for-profits that might benefit from contributors; I'll ask= about</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-f= amily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">that. Bob Payne is local to D= C, and I know he's connected to some</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0= 001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">not-f= or-profit projects, as is George[1].</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D= "margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-seri= f;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font= -family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">If we're thinking about the progr= amming or XP community, I don't think</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.= 0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">ther= e's any dearth of ideas for smallish applications that would improve</div><= div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr= i, sans-serif;" class=3D"">things. (Maybe that deserves a thread of its own= ?)</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-si= ze: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin= : 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla= ss=3D"">** Schedule:</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in= 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><d= iv style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri= , sans-serif;" class=3D"">This will depend on the location, so I'll start a= new thread for DC.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:= 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Feel free to start thr= eads for your location.</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in = 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p= ><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali= bri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">=E2=80=94George</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" = style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, s= ans-serif;"> </p><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11= pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On 12/5/19 3:22 PM, Georg= e Paci wrote:</div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001= pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div styl= e=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;" class=3D"">> Who would be interested in physically getting toget= her for a</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; fon= t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> substantial period of time = (8 hours or a few days) to just plain</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.= 0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">>= practice the way we do XP (and related things) today? At the end, we= </div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:= Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> could make a list of things we saw t= hat aren't common knowledge, and</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001p= t; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> brie= fly explain them.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 1= 1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> </div><div sty= le=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans= -serif;" class=3D"">> The code could be one or more (probably Open Sourc= e) projects that we</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:= 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> bring. Each= project could be in a different language; part of what we</div><div style= =3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;" class=3D"">> need to know is how to deal with languages and syst= ems we don't</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; = font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> understand yet.</div><di= v style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,= sans-serif;" class=3D"">> </div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.00= 01pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> T= his is just a vague idea at the moment, but for what it's worth, I</div><di= v style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,= sans-serif;" class=3D"">> can provide space for a couple dozen people t= o code (in a sunny,</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:= 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> climate-controlle= d room) near Washington, DC.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; f= ont-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> </d= iv><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca= libri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> =E2=80=94George</div><div style=3D"marg= in: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" c= lass=3D"">> </div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size= : 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> "I used to think= that the brain was the most important organ in</div><div style=3D"margin: = 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class= = =3D"">> body. Then I realized who was telling me this..." - Emo P= hillips</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-= family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">> </div><div style=3D"marg= in: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" c= lass=3D"">> </div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size= : 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">></div><div style= =3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-= serif;" class=3D"">> </div><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin= : 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nb= sp;</p><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-siz= e: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"></p><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" st= yle=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, san= s-serif;"> </p><p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.000= 1pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div></= div></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></body></html> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160508">View/Reply Online (#160508)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= = =3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20Practicing%20XP%20gathering">R= eply To Group</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= =3DPrivate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20Practicing%20XP%20g= athering">Reply To Sender</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/67202106/2417047">Mu= te This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/post">New Topic</a><br= > <br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/editsub/2417047">Your Su= bscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner<= /a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/= xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --Apple-Mail=_367E203A-9485-4E2E-B892-01E6711F2D7E--