Re: Re: Scrum Master Job Description
"Michael Wollin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:25:34 -0800
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--Apple-Mail=_1381BEAF-7D3C-4512-9F8B-73C3243BA979 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Funny how the distributed teams aspect took over this thread. It is such a = minor part of what I think are much bigger issues with the job posting.=20 To me, agile is more than the principles and values. It is a spirit. That s= pirit can be present in a distributed team. It=E2=80=99s not ideal. It=E2= =80=99s harder to do. But still possible.=20 Again, it=E2=80=99s the corruption of agile that s my concern.=20 Michael > On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Steve Ropa [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELO= PMENT] <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > [Attachment(s) <x-msg://19/#TopText> from Steve Ropa included below] >=20 > This is something that always bothers me. People say =E2=80=9Cfind this = explicitly stated in the manifesto=E2=80=9D. That feels like a difficult w= ay of thinking about Agile. Obviously the principle stated below makes it = clear that ideally we want people to have face to face communication, which= is exceptionally difficult when distributed around the world. So does tha= t mean if you are on a distributed team you can=E2=80=99t be agile? I don= =E2=80=99t think so. I think it is showing that it will be much more diffi= cult to be agile in those circumstances. >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > Are you =E2=80=9Cdoing agile wrong=E2=80=9D if you have a distributed tea= m? Of course not. But you are choosing to make a compromise that will req= uire you to find a way to be more agile without co-located teams. Now were= I in a position to effect changes in a distributed organization, I would r= ecommend quite strongly to find a way to limit the distribution, perhaps ha= ving each location have its own co-located team rather than a person here, = a person there, but that is a highly situational consideration >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for Win= dows 10 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > From: Scott Griffin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <mailto:SCRU= [email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:58 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:SCRUMDEVELOPMENT@yahoogroups= ..com> > Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Re: Scrum Master Job Description >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > I picked it up in the manifesto when I first started exploring Agile deve= lopment principles >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > The most efficient and effective method of=20 >=20 > conveying information to and within a development=20 >=20 > team is face-to-face conversation >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 11:18 PM, "[email protected] <mailto:steve@= ootac.com> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected] <mailto:SC= [email protected]>> wrote: >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20=20=20 >=20 > My apologies Scott - I misread your 'I am doing Agile wrong' message as b= eing from Alan. >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > This thread was started by Michael showing us the job spec for a Scrum Ma= ster that severely breaks the advice and guidance given in the Scrum Guide. >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > Now, anybody is free to do whatever they like (within the law of course) = but why would accompany or person want to call someone or themselves if the= y are not following the Scrum Guide. >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > To be facetious for a moment, if you were a dentist, do you think it acce= ptable to apply for a brain surgeon job? After all, both jobs are medical = and to do with bits of the head! >=20 >=20=20 >=20 > And you never answered my question about where you have read that Agile m= eans all the team is in the same room. >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_1381BEAF-7D3C-4512-9F8B-73C3243BA979 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: s= pace; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> Funny how the distributed teams aspect took over this thread. It is such a = minor part of what I think are much bigger issues with the job posting.&nbs= p;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">To me, agile is more= than the principles and values. It is a spirit. That spirit can be present= in a distributed team. It=E2=80=99s not ideal. It=E2=80=99s harder to do. = But still possible. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div cl= ass=3D"">Again, it=E2=80=99s the corruption of agile that s my concern.&nbs= p;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Michael<br cla= ss=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class= =3D"">On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Steve Ropa <a href=3D"mailto:steveropa@= gmail.com" class=3D"">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <<a hre= f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">SCRUMDEVELOPMENT@y= ahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">= <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"font-size: 13px; font-famil= y: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-ca= ps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;= text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing:= 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);= position: relative;" class=3D""><div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"line-height:= 1.22em; z-index: 1;" class=3D""><div id=3D"ygrp-text" style=3D"line-height= : 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;" class=3D""><span style=3D"line-height: 1.2= 2em; font-weight: 700; font-size: 12px; display: block; margin-bottom: 20px= ;" class=3D"">[<a href=3D"x-msg://19/#TopText" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em= ; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Attachment(s)</a><span class=3D"Apple-= converted-space"> </span>from Steve Ropa included below]</span><div st= yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class=3D""><br class=3D"w= ebkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"line-he= ight: 1.22em;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-he= ight: 1.22em;">This is something that always bothers me. People say = =E2=80=9Cfind this explicitly stated in the manifesto=E2=80=9D. That = feels like a difficult way of thinking about Agile. Obviously the pri= nciple stated below makes it clear that ideally we want people to have face= to face communication, which is exceptionally difficult when distributed a= round the world. So does that mean if you are on a distributed team y= ou can=E2=80=99t be agile? I don=E2=80=99t think so. I think it= is showing that it will be much more difficult to be agile in those circum= stances.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-heigh= t: 1.22em;"><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">&n= bsp;</o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-heigh= t: 1.22em;">Are you =E2=80=9Cdoing agile wrong=E2=80=9D if you have a distr= ibuted team? Of course not. But you are choosing to make a comp= romise that will require you to find a way to be more agile without co-loca= ted teams. Now were I in a position to effect changes in a distribute= d organization, I would recommend quite strongly to find a way to limit the= distribution, perhaps having each location have its own co-located team ra= ther than a person here, a person there, but that is a highly situational c= onsideration</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-h= eight: 1.22em;"><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"= "> </o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-h= eight: 1.22em;"><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"= "> </o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-h= eight: 1.22em;">Sent from<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span= ><a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" style=3D"line= -height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class=3D"">Mail</a><span class=3D"A= pple-converted-space"> </span>for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"= style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em;"><o style=3D"font-size:= 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""> </o></p><div style=3D"line-hei= ght: 1.22em; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-style: solid; border-top-col= or: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNo= rmal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; padding: 0in;"><b = style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">From:<span class=3D"Apple-convert= ed-space"> </span></b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= om" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class=3D"">Scott G= riffin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]</a><br style=3D"line-height= : 1.22em;" class=3D""><b style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Sent:<sp= an class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, December 21, = 2017 11:58 AM<br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><b style=3D"line= -height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> = ;</span></b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"li= ne-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class=3D"">SCRUMDEVELOPMENT@yahoo= groups.com</a><br style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><b style=3D"lin= e-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">Subject:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"= > </span></b>Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Re: Scrum Master Job Description</= p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1= ..22em;"><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""> = </o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1= ..22em;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""> </span><o sty= le=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></p><div id=3D"y= grp-mlmsg" style=3D"font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, = sans-serif; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"= line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><div id=3D"ygrp-text" style=3D"line-height= : 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22= em;" class=3D""><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513829730229_17362" style=3D"= line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0p= x 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-positio= n: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"lin= e-height: 1.22em; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" cla= ss=3D"">I picked it up in the manifesto when I first started exploring Agil= e development principles<o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" c= lass=3D""></o></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513829730229_1= 7362" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl= e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; bac= kground-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><sp= an style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, s= ans-serif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" cl= ass=3D""> </o></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513829730= 229_17362" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"= style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white= ; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;= "><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 18pt; font-family: "T= imes New Roman", serif;" class=3D"">The most efficient and effective m= ethod of </span><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 10pt; f= ont-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; = line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0= _ym19_1_1513829730229_17428" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p c= lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; backg= round-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat= : initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 18pt; fo= nt-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=3D"">conveying inform= ation to and within a development </span><span style=3D"line-height: 1= ..22em; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o = style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p></= div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1513829730229_17430" style=3D"line-height:= 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; l= ine-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-position: initial i= nitial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.= 22em; font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" cl= ass=3D"">team is face-to-face conversation</span><span style=3D"line-height= : 1.22em; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">= <o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p= ></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal= " style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 12pt; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: whi= te; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initia= l;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helve= tica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22= em;" class=3D""> </o></span></p></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22e= m;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><div style=3D= "line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class= =3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.2= 2em; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; backgro= und-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size= : 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Wednesday, December = 20, 2017 11:18 PM, "<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"line-height= : 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;" class=3D"">[email protected]</a><span class= =3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <<a href=3D"= mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font= -family: Verdana;" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrot= e:</span><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: = Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height:= 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m= argin: 0px 0px 12pt; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; backgrou= nd-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span st= yle=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-s= erif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class= =3D""> </o></span></p><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><= div id=3D"yiv3227076803" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><div sty= le=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"marg= in: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-p= osition: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style= =3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-seri= f;" class=3D""> <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o = style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p><d= iv id=3D"yiv3227076803ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""= ><div id=3D"yiv3227076803ygrp-msg" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"= "><div id=3D"yiv3227076803ygrp-text" style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class= =3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"= style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white= ; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;= "><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helveti= ca, sans-serif;" class=3D"">My apologies Scott - I misread your 'I am doing= Agile wrong' message as being from Alan.<o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-h= eight: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p></div><div style=3D"line-height: = 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; li= ne-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-position: initial in= itial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.2= 2em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o st= yle=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""> </o></span></= p></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: whi= te; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initia= l;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helve= tica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">This thread was started by Michael showing us= the job spec for a Scrum Master that severely breaks the advice and guidan= ce given in the Scrum Guide.<o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em= ;" class=3D""></o></span></p></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" clas= s=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.= 22em; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; backgr= ound-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-fam= ily: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-he= ight: 1.22em;" class=3D""> </o></span></p></div><div style=3D"line-hei= ght: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1e= m; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-position: initi= al initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height= : 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">= Now, anybody is free to do whatever they like (within the law of course) bu= t why would accompany or person want to call someone or themselves if they = are not following the Scrum Guide.<o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: = 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;= " class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-heig= ht: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; = background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; fo= nt-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o style=3D"= font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""> </o></span></p></div= ><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl= e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; bac= kground-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><sp= an style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, s= ans-serif;" class=3D"">To be facetious for a moment, if you were a dentist,= do you think it acceptable to apply for a brain surgeon job? After a= ll, both jobs are medical and to do with bits of the head!<o style=3D"font-= size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""></o></span></p></div><div style= =3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin= : 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white; background-pos= ition: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style=3D= "line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"= class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">&n= bsp;</o></span></p></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p = class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em; back= ground-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repea= t: initial initial;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-size: 12pt; f= ont-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">And you never answered my qu= estion about where you have read that Agile means all the team is= in the same room.<o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class= =3D""></o></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s= tyle=3D"margin: 0px 0px 12pt; line-height: 1.22em; background-color: white;= background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"= ><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" c= lass=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class=3D"">&nbs= p;</o></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"li= ne-height: 1.22em;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px = 0px 1em; line-height: 1.22em;"><span style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; color: w= hite;" class=3D""><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" class= =3D""></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 1em; l= ine-height: 1.22em;"><o style=3D"font-size: 0px; line-height: 1.22em;" clas= s=3D""> </o></p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.2= 2em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder= "></div></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);= height: 0px;" class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></d= iv> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color: white; clear: both;"/>__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"clear:both; margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgroun= d-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Michael Wollin <[email protected]> <hr = style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3= E3;"> </div> <!-- Start Recommendations --> <!-- End Recommendations --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: SCRUMDEVELOPMENT-unsubscribe@eGrou= ps.com</tt> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97476590/grpId=3D1569064/grpspI= d=3D1705007709/msgId=3D58789/stime=3D1513884340" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> = <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> =20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> =20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-fam= ily: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tr= ansform: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SCRUMD= EVELOPMENT/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlazdvY2wwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQE= Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTUxMzg4NDM0MA--" s= tyle=3D"text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> <li style=3D"border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; di= splay: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class=3D"cat"><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SC= RUMDEVELOPMENT/members/all;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJmbjZjYXIxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkA= zE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzE1MTM4= ODQzNDA-" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class=3D"ct" style=3D"color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkYmdjYzE2BF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNTEzODg0MzQw" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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