Re: [testdrivendevelopment] "I think the community needs more explicit direction...."
"Charles Gallo" <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:52:27 -0500
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--=_9a6717a5fb94038b20e5f6f3355465b1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Of course you do - Don't you know it costs 2x the money? </sarc> It doesn't help (at least where I've been) the average IT department is 4-8 people - total. That includes the CIO and the Manager, who spend all their time in meetings getting specs (Manager) and planning networks and servers (CIO), so you have 2-4 people to be DBA, Developers, Tester, operations etc - and they think the department is properly staffed. One of the two (CIO/Manager) will come by every couple of weeks, grab whatever they can find (usually logging into the database or the web server) and making changes right in Prod, and when you get upset, it is your fault It has gotten to the point I told both my kids not to go into the field, unfortunately, my son isn't listening to me, and is studying Computer Engineering On 2019-11-25 12:40, Edwin Castro wrote: > Yes, but I still see a lot of resistance to pairing. Code reviews are much more accepted. > > -- > Edwin G. Castro -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35776): https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/message/35776 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/61850834/3268755 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/leave/6156322/744556386/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --=_9a6717a5fb94038b20e5f6f3355465b1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset= = =3DUTF-8" /></head><body style=3D'font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,Ge= neva,sans-serif'> <p>Of course you do - Don't you know it costs 2x the money? </sarc><= br /><br />It doesn't help (at least where I've been) the average IT depart= ment is 4-8 people - total. That includes the CIO and the Manager, wh= o spend all their time in meetings getting specs (Manager) and planning net= works and servers (CIO), so you have 2-4 people to be DBA, Developers, Test= er, operations etc - and they think the department is properly staffed.&nbs= p; One of the two (CIO/Manager) will come by every couple of weeks, grab wh= atever they can find (usually logging into the database or the web server) = and making changes right in Prod, and when you get upset, it is your fault<= br /><br />It has gotten to the point I told both my kids not to go into th= e field, unfortunately, my son isn't listening to me, and is studying Compu= ter Engineering</p> <p><br /></p> <p>On 2019-11-25 12:40, Edwin Castro wrote:</p> <blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff = 2px solid; margin: 0"><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta i= gnored --> <div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, but I still see a lot of resistance to pairing. Code= reviews are much more accepted. <div> </div> <div>--</div> <div>Edwin G. Castro</div> <div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </body></html> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/mes= sage/35776">View/Reply Online (#35776)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subj= ect=3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5Btestdrivendevelopment%5D%20%22I%20think%20the%20comm= unity%20needs%20more%20explicit%20direction....%22">Reply To Group</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3D= Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Btestdrivendevelopment%5D%20%22I%20think%20the%2= 0community%20needs%20more%20explicit%20direction....%22">Reply To Sender</a= > | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/61850834/3268755">Mu= te This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/post">New Topic</a>= <br> <br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/editsub/3268755">Your= Subscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Own= er</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/leave/6156322/7445563= 86/xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --=_9a6717a5fb94038b20e5f6f3355465b1--