Re: Multi faxing problems Hylafax+

zootal <[email protected]> Fri, 15 Mar 2019 08:48:33 -0700
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Thanks everyone. For fear of sounding stupid - how do I disable ECM? I=20
RTFM's but did not find anything anywhere. The closest I got was a=20
reference to ATEC0 turning off ECM, how would I configure hylafax to=20
send this to the modem?


On 3/15/19 12:04 AM, Christo Labuschagne wrote:
> Good day
>
> My 10c to add here.=C2=A0 Have a look that if the calls that went throu=
gh=20
> successfully have the NSF reported correctly. When using a more=20
> reliable T.38 backend connection, the NSF gets overridden by 0xFF (if=20
> I recall correctly).=C2=A0 I have noticed in my testing that you someti=
mes=20
> get it and in some cases you get a codec line.=C2=A0 Just something=20
> to=C2=A0think about.
>
> On the other hand, seems like you might be having the same issue=20
> between Class 1 and 2, just different symptoms.=C2=A0 Seems like both f=
ail=20
> at the end of sending a page.=C2=A0 In class 1 case the receiver discar=
ds=20
> the fax (possibly because of ECM), and class 2 goes through.=C2=A0 You =
can=20
> try class 1 without EMC (this might be degrading your quality though)?
>
> I did notice the destination supports JBIG which can be enabled by you=20
> by installing libjbig.=C2=A0 This reduces the fax page by about 30 - 50=
%=20
> over MMR.=C2=A0 Might reduce your time in fax?
>
> Kind regards
> Christo
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 6:42 AM Lee Howard <[email protected]=20
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     On 03/14/2019 08:22 AM, zootal wrote:
>     > Mar 04 09:16:36.70: [19160]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3D3\r]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: --> [7:CONNECT]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: <-- HDLC<7:FF C8 FD F4 00 00 1C>
>     > Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: <-- data [7]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: <-- data [2]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: --> [2:OK]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: SEND send PPS (partial page signal)
>     > Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: SEND send EOP (no more pages or
>     documents)
>     > Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: <-- [9:AT+FRH=3D3\r]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:39.96: [19160]: --> [7:CONNECT]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:40.00: [19160]: --> [4:60 F6 10 03]
>     > Mar 04 09:16:40.00: [19160]: --> [5:ERROR]
>
>     The problem here is that this is the only indication of any respons=
e
>     from the receiver to our PPS-EOP signal, and the response is corrup=
t.
>
>     This is either due to bugs in your modem firmware or due to poor ph=
one
>     line audio quality on your phone lines.
>
>     If you can send faxes consistently with success to this destination
>     using Class 2.0, and if the image quality on the received fax (on t=
he
>     receiver's end) is perfect, then I would suggest that the problem i=
s
>     more likely with your modem's Class 1 firmware.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Lee.
>
>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Thanks everyone. For fear of sounding
      stupid - how do I disable ECM? I RTFM's but did not find anything
      anywhere. The closest I got was a reference to ATEC0 turning off
      ECM, how would I configure hylafax to send this to the modem?<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 3/15/19 12:04 AM, Christo Labuschagne wrote:<br>
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">Good day
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>My 10c to add here.=C2=A0 Have a look that if the calls that
          went through successfully have the NSF reported correctly.=C2=A0
          When using a more reliable T.38 backend connection, the NSF
          gets overridden by 0xFF (if I recall correctly).=C2=A0 I have
          noticed in my testing that you sometimes get it and in some
          cases you get a codec line.=C2=A0 Just something to=C2=A0think =
about.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>On the other hand, seems like you might be having the same
          issue between Class 1 and 2, just different symptoms.=C2=A0 See=
ms
          like both fail at the end of sending a page.=C2=A0 In class 1 c=
ase
          the receiver discards the fax (possibly because of ECM), and
          class 2 goes through.=C2=A0 You can try class 1 without EMC (th=
is
          might be degrading your quality though)?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I did notice the destination supports JBIG which can be
          enabled by you by installing libjbig.=C2=A0 This reduces the fa=
x
          page by about 30 - 50% over MMR.=C2=A0 Might reduce your time i=
n
          fax?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Kind regards</div>
        <div>Christo</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 6:4=
2
          AM Lee Howard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"
            moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email protected]</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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On
          03/14/2019 08:22 AM, zootal wrote:<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:36.70: [19160]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FTH=3D3\r]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: --&gt; [7:CONNECT]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: &lt;-- HDLC&lt;7:FF C8 FD F4
          00 00 1C&gt;<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: &lt;-- data [7]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:36.81: [19160]: &lt;-- data [2]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: --&gt; [2:OK]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: SEND send PPS (partial page
          signal)<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: SEND send EOP (no more pages
          or documents)<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:38.14: [19160]: &lt;-- [9:AT+FRH=3D3\r]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:39.96: [19160]: --&gt; [7:CONNECT]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:40.00: [19160]: --&gt; [4:60 F6 10 03]<br>
          &gt; Mar 04 09:16:40.00: [19160]: --&gt; [5:ERROR]<br>
          <br>
          The problem here is that this is the only indication of any
          response<br>
          from the receiver to our PPS-EOP signal, and the response is
          corrupt.<br>
          <br>
          This is either due to bugs in your modem firmware or due to
          poor phone<br>
          line audio quality on your phone lines.<br>
          <br>
          If you can send faxes consistently with success to this
          destination<br>
          using Class 2.0, and if the image quality on the received fax
          (on the<br>
          receiver's end) is perfect, then I would suggest that the
          problem is<br>
          more likely with your modem's Class 1 firmware.<br>
          <br>
          Thanks,<br>
          <br>
          Lee.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
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