Re: Re: New homepage is up

Steve Lhomme <[email protected]> Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:12:32 +0100 (MET)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.video.mcf.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
En réponse à [email protected]:
> concern seemed to be "who's to blame for this mess?" instead of "how can
> we fix it and move on?".

I didn't care about how to fix it because I know mf can do it, I can do it, you
can do it, many people can do it. But since mf has a view of what he wants to do
on the website he surely knows how he's going to solve it. That was not a
question for me.

You may think that my question was useless or just made to start a new flame war
(which nearly happened). But there's more to that simple question : who's taking
the decisions ? Do we care of the level of quality of the stuff we produce ?

Changing to the new design is not just a simple "cp" or "mv" command typed. And
I wanted to make sure that everyone involved with MCF knows that.

> (pointless) "Why did we do this?" question offered no solutions, only
> politics.
> I dislike politics.  I dislike people maneuvering others into situations
> so they can attack their actions later.

Actually that's a big difference between us. I *really* like politics. And I
think it's highly irresponsible to think that nothing is politics, or that some
things are not politics (like typing "mv newpages/* ."). IMO every act we do is
a politic act because it can (and does) have bigger consequences. For example I
consider that the HTML code of a website is a very political thing. You can go
Frontpage, Dreamweaver, non-WYSIWYG, PHP, XHTML, etc. And all these choices have
consequences (like the quality and size of code produced, who can edit it later,
are we locked in proprietary extensions, etc). That's why one of the first thing
I do when I browse a website of a project I care about, it to open the source of
HTML pages. IMO that gives many information that you wouldn't get otherwise.

Given the open and universal nature of MCF (and UCI, remember your pages without
a <head> ? ;) I think the website(s) should be as open and universal as possible.

Not everyone will browse HTML source, of course. But for those who do (or have
problem accessing the site) we should show our good will.

My question may have been a bad attempt at raising my concerns. But at least it
make people think about it. Now you can consider all this as bullshit. But at
least I exposed my point of view, and I hope other people will share it.


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