Re: Opera 24 for Linux released on Developer stream
Mike Brown <[email protected]> Tue, 24 Jun 2014 03:23:59 -0500
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 09:19:36AM +0200, Arjan van Leeuwen wrote: Arjan: Like Bill, I'm not enthused about Opera becomming Chrome, in any shape or form. If I had wanted Chrome's features, I would have dropped Opera and moved to Chrome. I want Opera as it functions under version 12. I'd stay with Opera 12 until the day I die, but unfortunately sooner or later my damn bank is going to say that it will refuse to let me log in with an old version of Opera, which they've done already. I have no idea how long they will allow Opera 12 to be used before getting all pissy about it. I'm guessing that no one thought about situations like that for Opera users. Needless to say, I'm not pleased, not pleased at all. MB > Dear Bill, > > Opera 24 is a completely new product compared to Opera <= 12, and listing > the features of each would be useless; apart from the fact that both are > made to display web pages and are being developed largely by the same > people, I don't think you'll find *any* feature of Opera 12 that is present > in exactly the same way in Opera 24. That might be disappointing to you, > understandably so, but I'd like to ask you to judge this new browser on its > own merits. > > Of course I can't force you to try something we're handing out for free: > it's completely up to you whether you want to try it out, use it, or > promote it. > > What I can tell you is why *I* choose to use Opera over Chrome on Linux > (and perhaps why I returned to working for Opera this year). In order of > importance to me, most important at the top: > > - Mouse gestures! > - Speed Dial > - Out-of-the-box HiDPI support > - No automatic sign-in to google-everything > > Compared to other Chromium-based browsers that are not Chrome, for me it > also has the huge advantage that it's being kept up-to-date very quickly > and only lags chrome-unstable by a couple of weeks, something that no other > chromium-based browser can say AFAIK. And Opera is a big contributor to > Blink, developing some features and bug fixes in Opera first before > upstreaming them. > > These might not be reasons for you to use Opera. Maybe there are other > things that you'll get to like in Opera which will keep you using the > browser, or maybe there are some features in Chrome that you can't live > without. In any case I'd like to hear about them, and I hope it doesn't > stop you from trying Opera. > > Best regards, > > Arjan > > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:39 PM, J. William Cupp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Arjan, > > > > Sorry to say this, but after making us wait so long you're going to need > > more than a cheery note to pull me back in. > > > > When Chrome-based-Opera first came out I tried it on Windows and did not > > like what I saw. All of the best features of Chrome were included but > > none of the best features of Opera were there. It was like 1983 when > > Coca-Cola decided to put Pepsi in their bright red cans. Consumers > > could at that time purchase Pepsi in Pepsi cans and Pepsi in Coke cans, > > but you couldn't get Coke anywhere. If I had wanted to switch to Chrome > > I had plenty of opportunity to do so, but I very much favored Opera > > until you forced me to make the switch. If I am going to use Chrome, > > what is the advantage of using Chrome with an Opera skin? > > > > This is too bad, since formerly I was an avid supporter of Opera and > > even worked to get others onboard using it. However, I have now > > relegated Opera to my "great software fondly remembered" list, along > > with WordPerfect. My strategy at present is to continue to use Opera 12 > > (Linux and Windows) as long as it works, and use Chrome whenever it > > doesn't. With each passing month I am using Chrome a little bit more. > > > > If you have any hope of getting me to try Opera 24 on Linux, you'll need > > to first provide an exact list of which former features of Opera are no > > longer available. I know there are some. > > > > - Bill > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 10:11 +0200, Arjan van Leeuwen wrote: > > > We've just released the first version of Opera for Linux since the > > > switchover to Chromium/Blink here: > > > > > http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/06/opera-24-linux-released-developer-stream/ > > > Try it and feel free to leave some feedback :) > > > > -- > > > > J. 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