Re: Re: Template per section

Tom Croucher <tcroucher-Qu2Fn+blMuyTtA8H5PvdGFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.design
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I have to agree with Michael. I see horrible horrible unsemantic 
inaccesssible code a lot. We are encouraging people to do more with CSS and 
part of that is hiding valid things from certain views. For example hiding 
the description of an object from the user may be good for the design but 
bad for google. If you hide what you dont want with a css style sheet then 
google can still see what they want.

We are working on a better systems but in the meantime we think that people 
will get most benefit from fast css only skinning. If you want to edit 
templates you can, but I can honestly say that we don't.

We do a lot of work so you don't have to, if we are saying CSS only skinning 
is easier its not because we are mad or stupid, its because we really 
believe it. You can skin a whole plone site now in 2 hours. Everything. Now 
thats power!

Tom

Michael Zeltner wrote:

> Tonico Strasser wrote:
>> I strongly disagree, since not every website has the same structure.
> 
> i think you missed the point. not everyone knows about accessibility and
> semantic xhtml. and actually thats the way we want to show and teach
> people. there aren't many changes necessary to change the main design of
> plone 2. and we're going to extend that in the next few versions.
> 
> at the moment, template changes, or a skin from scratch, is able to
> (accidently) remove many many features plone comes with out of the box.
> unless you *really* want to remove the functionality we provide, thats
> bad, imo. and if you just customize some templates you may end up with
> errors. thats why i noted this.
> 
> changing structure should/can be very easy with the pagelets system
> which hopefully goes into development soon...
> 
> and actually, almost every website has similiar visual "parts", so it
> should have a similiar structure aswell (in a perfect world).
> 
> and please don't let this end up in a flamewar :)
> 
> regards, michael




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