Re: Usability testing Plone 5.0

On 11 Mar 2014, at 10:42 am, Rok Garbas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Quoting Dylan Jay (2014-03-10 21:46:09)
>> 
>> On 11 Mar 2014 03:04, "Anthony Gerrard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just wondering  if there are any plans to do any usability testing on the
>> very different Plone 5.0 UI.
>> 
>> Once we reach alpha then I will arrange as wide spread testing on the design as
>> I can via the UI team. Please join if this is an area that you can give
>> feedback on.
>> 
> 
> there is a lot of work that need to be done in javascript. i would suggest wait
> until beta (or late alpha release) otherwise you won't get really final version
> of the UI.

Hi Rok,

I appreciate there are a lot of work still yet to do in javascript. However how the toolbar works is by far the biggest UI change and is therefore the most risky. Should we need to change our plans on how it works, it would save rework if that was tested sooer. Based on that I'd say it would be a good idea to prioritise getting a working toolbar in the alpha1 release. That way we can run a campaign to get constructive feedback on the toolbar.

The foldercontents which is the other large change can be tested now via wildcard.foldercontents on plone4.3. Everything else, except for perhaps the relateditem widget isn't a large UI change from 4.3. 


> 
> 
>>> I took my first look in a browser today and I'm afraid I was pretty lost with
>> the tool bar.  I don't think the icons are terribly obvious.  Was any
>> consideration given to a horizontal sticky menu that uses words versus the
>> vertical sticky menu with icons?
>>> 
>> 
>> The menu was originally horizontal and was moved for many reasons. A big one
>> being that most themes used the top of the page often with absolute position
>> elements that interfere. For example bootstrap does this.
>> 
>> The menu is designed to use words. This might be broken on the version you are
>> using. Its supposed to have three modes.
>> - small square in top left is hidden
>> - just icons
>> - words and icons.
>> 
>> Any specific feedback on icons that were unintuitive to you please let the UI
>> team know.
>> 
>> I'm not sure if this is implemented yet but the vertical menu should be a
>> concertina rather pop out.
>> 
> 
> toolbar in current plone 5 theme (barceloneta) is not final version. i'm
> currently working on this to make it work with modes from above with touch
> support for mobile devices.
> 
> i'm glad everybody is so conserned about icons :) because if thats the only
> thing we missed i'm going to be sooo happy :P
> 
> and if somebody want to get into javascript development please contact me,
> there are so many things to do i'm not even going to mention when plone 5 is
> going to be ready if we dont step up the game. seriusly if you consider
> yourself a web developer in 2014 and you don't know how to _properly_ code in
> javascript then ... well fill the blank yourself :)
> 
> 
> --
> Rok Garbas - http://www.garbas.si


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