Re: edu.plone.org

Tom Hoffman <[email protected]> Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:50:50 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.educational
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thursday 29 May 2003 21:47, Rob Zaar wrote:
> All this discussion is good, but I think we need to
> start to capture it and organise it.
> There are many areas involved, and different
> directions we wont to go in. and many unanswered
> questions... eg why is eduzope so inactive?

Good question.  It probably is a good warning that we shouldn't put up a 
public site until we've started doing actual work.

> There seems to be two dimensions, intranet/internet
> education site vs online education, and school vs
> university. This would suggest different flavuors of
> eduplone are needed, though I think the overall
> framework should be flexible enough to suit both. On
> the other side of the coin we would want similar
> products, eg online testing.

The common thread might be a default plone installation that sets up the 
necessary roles for a school and has the member folders organized by roles.  
Plus facilities for creating courses and rosters, etc., which other products 
would be dependent on.

> My suggestion.
> * edu.plone.org be set up with a plone site it its own right
> with wiki (don't ask me
> which one) (or backtalkbook?) to tease out these ideas
> and start to put some order to them to create a
> skeleton on which to have some common action. Also, the site to use
> CMFCollection
> so members can add links, docs etc and have them turn up in the right
> spots, eg standards
> discussion, zope educational implementations, CMF educational
> implementations, etc.
>
> * A sourceforge site be set up where educational
> products can be developed much like the Collective
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/collective/) called
> eduplone (or part of the CMFplone setup at sourceforge?)
> * This site should include a single install configured
> for school plone and for uniplone which would have the
> necessary structure and products needed for an out of
> box generic solution.
> * We should also then join
> http://opensourceschools.org/

I think we can just start with a wiki and see where that takes us--we don't 
want to create another abandoned SourceForge site if this doesn't go 
anywhere.

> While the standards issue is not resolved, I don't
> think we need to put as much work into that area yet,
> but be trying to develop a rich set of metadata for
> the educational objects we will be creating so it can
> easily be ported into any of these frameworks. Thus,
> when we designate an educational object, eg student,
> we should also indicate what metadata it should have.

Agreed.  The standards are too complex and still in a state of flux--taking 
the trouble to adhere strictly to one of them isn't a good use of time at 
this point.

--Tom 


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