Re: Interested in joining the team

Josef Kufner <[email protected]> Sat, 31 Mar 2012 02:32:19 +0200
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On 31.3.2012 02:21, Jason Hsu wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:22:08 +0400
> Stanislav Maslovski <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Oh, please, no DE. DE was a fucked up concept already at the time when=
 it
>> was born, and after many years it proved to be completely useless for
>> ppl who do real work on their computers. It is a dead end. Even big
>> corporations will eventially throw it away, because there are better
>> alternatives.=20
>>
>> However, if you still cannot live without icons on your screen, then
>> you may use something like rox-filer or similar.
>>
> What's wrong with offering a DE?  Just because a DE is offered doesn't =
mean that it's forced on everyone.  Just look at how many individuals and=
 Linux distros (like CrunchBang) use OpenBox without LXDE.  If the concep=
t of a DE is so awful, then why are so many individuals and distros using=
 KDE, GNOME, Xfce, and LXDE?
>=20
> I have to have clickable icons on the screen, and I suspect that the ma=
jority of computer users feel the same way.  That's why I include pre-act=
ivated ROX pinboard in Swift Linux.  An ultra-lightweight user-friendly D=
E can win over users of the other DEs.  A WM alone probably won't.

If DE is IceWM + Rox + some session manager + some
configuration tool, then it is ok. Just prepare startup
script and default configu... oh, wait... icewm-session :)


>>> Innovation begets more innovation.  Without antiX Linux, there would =
be
>>> no Swift Linux.  Rolling out IceDE would encourage the development of=

>>> more lightweight distros and DEs.
>>
>> Which innovation are you talking about?...=20
>>
> antiX Linux proved that it's possible to transform a heavy distro into =
a light one by lightening MEPIS Linux.  As a result, antiX Linux offers t=
he unique combination of lightweight operation, user-friendliness, AND a =
large software repository.  The independent Puppy Linux offers lightweigh=
t operation and user-friendliness but falls short when it comes to the so=
ftware repository.  I'm applying the antiX Linux playbook to Linux Mint D=
ebian Edition in order to offer all of the benefits of antiX Linux PLUS t=
he superior codec/driver support of Linux Mint and Puppy Linux.  (antiX L=
inux doesn't play DVDs.  Linux Mint and Puppy Linux do.)

So, what is wrong with Debian, when you turn off automatic installation
of suggested and recomended packages (so it keeps small)? Why are these
things better?


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