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Christoph Schittko <[email protected]> Fri, 6 Jun 2003 21:21:33 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.windows.devel.dotnet.jobs
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Check out the article named: Momentum Software Wins Another "Offshore
Rescue" 

On http://schneider.blogspot.com

For another opinion on that topic ;) As far as another offshore project goes
that I is currently conducted at the company where I am presently at, I
can't say that it's very cost effective up to this point. So far it's been
wearing out the local staff that's supporting the ramp-up in India with late
night phone conferences, and other issues. Unless they get productive there
soon, I can't see any cost advantage over having the work done here.

I don't know if that's representative for each and every project moved
offshore, but I have yet to meet someone who's glowingly telling me about a
completely successful offshore project. I just wish decision makers would
talk to the same people I do.

Christoph

> -----Original Message-----
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> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry O'Brien
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> 
> > "To me, the overall market seems to be moving towards inexpensive
> > incompetence: under-specified, under-bid, and under-delivered
> > projects. But the monthly bill is less!"
> >
> >
> > Absolutely...and about a year from now there will be a lot of
> > jobs open in order to fix the "work" done by these scrubs today.
> 
> True, but will the "fixes" be done by what Tom called "artisanal"
> programmers? For that matter, if the scrubs say "This is what is known as
> iterative and incremental development, you got something out there fast
> and
> cheap, it doesn't quite meet your needs, and now we modify it," what will
> you argue? Scrubs modifying sloppy code will eventually become bogged down
> (probably), but not for several iterations of their sloppiness. And, as a
> good programmer, you will probably be _more_ pessimistic than the scrubs
> if
> you're up to bid for the fixing job: they'll say "Oh, we can change that,"
> and you'll say "It's a complete mess and to prepare for the future, you
> should refactor the whole thing."
> 
> These thoughts are making me reconsider my long-held viewpoint that
> certifications are a waste. Any MCADs or MCSDs on the list care to share
> their cost-benefit analyses?