RE: Familiarity and change

Hi Keith, 

As an NF who studies and teaches logic, and who does logic puzzles for fun,
I want to suggest a clarification: F's don't reject logic, we just reason
from different premises. I declare myself an F because I know the premises
that drive my decisions always come back to the feelings that people have
(my own feelings, for instance). T's may choose to reason from other
premises, and those perhaps do not involve feelings (at least not in such a
way that T's prefer to admit). 

-- James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Ray [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:34 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [resistance] Familiarity and change
> 
> 
> 
> >  It turns out that all the influence you try to make on them is 
> > heavily topped by the influence of their peers. Simply - 
> kids do like 
> > other kids do, most of the time. They especially tend to 
> copy the ones 
> > that are regarded as
> > cool (whatever "cool" is at some point in their childhood).
> ...
> > I also started observing and noticing this. In my programming life
> > I've seen
> > people that initially wrote pretty decent code start 
> "melting into the
> > environment" when thrown into some ugly legacy app - The Pickle Jar 
> > Syndrome
> > (I first found this name in Pragmatic Programmers book, and 
> later on 
> > I've
> > found this in some G. Weinberg book I believe).
> 
> I helped my coworker do an Myers-Briggs on-line test today 
> (English is 
> not his native language)... he's an "E", which I've always known, and 
> turns out to be "ENFJ". We get along very well, but I'm an 
> INTJ - logic 
> is king, and I don't follow the crowd; while he has a lot of 
> scientific 
> training, he feels that scientific method and logic are not that 
> important: this is why my logical arguments have failed to 
> persuade him 
> to do various XP practices (like TDD) in a non-XP project. He did do 
> them in an XP project, but he would rather conform to the overall 
> company culture when not in an XP project.
> 
> --
> C. Keith Ray
> <http://homepage.mac.com/keithray/blog/index.html>
> <http://homepage.mac.com/keithray/xpminifaq.html>
> <http://homepage.mac.com/keithray/resume2.html>
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