Re: Digital Whisper issue #1

On Monday 05 Oct 2009 22:21:19 Budilovsky Evgeny wrote:
> Guys,
> I think we should take the phrack <http://www.phrack.org/> approach and
> publish our issues in plain text. Images can be replaced by ascii-art or in
> special cases encoded in base64 and embedded in the text. This will
>  probably solve the formats wars since no one can argue that simple ascii
>  text is not supported by it's system.

Was that a joke? ASCII Art is very inaccessible too, and usually looks 
horrible. And plaintext is incredibly non-aesthetic. You can easily convert 
XHTML to PDF or plaintext. And if you ask me, even PDF is better than 
plaintext. Plaintext would look incredibly unprofessional, and would indicate
a bad laziness on your part. Let's not go there.

Let's not end up with the copper because we cannot decide between the silver 
and the gold.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

> 
> P.S.
> Thanks for the great issue. In case you stick with the pdf format is it
> possible to make links click-able from the pdf this will save the
>  copy-paste from the foxit reader to the firefox.
> 
> Best regards,
> Evgeny
> 
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif-ik1l9ssToec+JF/[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 Oct 2009 13:09:51 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > > 1. Why are the articles in PDF format? PDF suffers from poor
> > > > accessibility, inconvenience, low ability to be hacked and re-used,
> > > > and other problems. I don't have a PDF viewer configured in my
> > > > browser, and when clicking on the link, one of them was downloaded to
> > > > my hard-disk, and I am too inconvenienced to open it using a PDF
> > > > viewer.
> > >
> > > I actually think that PDF is great. It is freely available, preserves
> > > formatting across OS / applications, and is contained in a single file
> > > ([X]HTML is not).
> >
> > The latter can be solved using solutions such as .zip or tar.gz or a CHM
> > :
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help
> >
> > Also, you can always put the HTML you want under a certain path on the
> > server
> > and use mirroring tools. So it's a solved problem.
> >
> > > Is is searchable and the text is extractable.
> >
> > It is not as searchable as HTML or XML is, and the text is not easily
> > extractable if there is fancy formatting or layout. And not all FOSS PDF
> > viewers have adequate mechanisms for it.
> >
> > > Is is
> > > also accessible to the disabled, though Linux support for that feature
> > > may be missing (a problem with Linux applications, not with PDF
> > > itself).
> >
> > It's much less accessible to the disabled than XHTML is.
> >
> > > There are RTL issues with PDF though.
> >
> > Big RTL issues.
> >
> > Nevertheless, by using DocBook/XML and other tools one can easily
> > generate both XHTML and PDF output. And you can convert XHTML to PDF too
> > using the print-to-file function of the browsers.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >        Shlomi Fish
> >
> > > >> If anyone is willing to contribute, submit an article or give a
> > > >> feedback, contact Digital Whisper crew here -
> > > >> [email protected]
> > >
> > > When I get around to it!
> >
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> > Shlomi Fish       http://www.shlomifish.org/
> > Parody on "The Fountainhead" - http://shlom.in/towtf
> >
> > Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice.
> >
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