RE: saddam's capture

"Kate Ahmad" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Asalaamu alaikum Mei,

I probably didn't express myself well.  I am aware of the atrocities 
committed under the regime of Saddam Hussein, and agree that he deserves 
punishment.
It just really annoys me that Bush spouts his lines about 'the iraqi men and 
women are free now' etc etc, when everyone knows that UN sanctions were 
responsible for the deaths of 500,000 (approx) innocent Iraqi children, that 
Bush Sr and Jr between them knocked out thousands more in their Gulf wars, 
that there are medical repercussions from the chemicals used in the first 
gulf war resulting in thousands more (mostly kids) dying from cancers, and 
now with most vital facilities bombed by the US, many more will die from 
malnutrition, water borne disease etc.
I cant stand the hypocrisy and the attitude of that govt, which I believe is 
at least as deserving as punishment as Saddam Hussein.  I feel more anger 
towards Bush, probably because he portrays himself as some sort of glorious 
Superman who epitomises good, when he is guilty of the same crimes as the 
men he brands as evil.

Wa'salaam
aisha

>From: "Mei Mei Stienstra" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] saddam's capture
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:52:15 +0100
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I'm new here and so far I've only been observing your discussions  :)
>
>I've  mostly agreed with the statements made by you all, but I can't 
>understand the current opinions about the capturing of Saddam Hussein.
>I personally was really happy that he was found him. We all know what he 
>-amongst others- is responsible for and I think it is only fair towards the 
>people who were killed, tortured, traumatized etc under his supervision 
>that he has to face the consequences of his actions. In my opinion whether 
>he was put in power/helped by the US or whoever else does not change that. 
>Neither does the fact that it was the US (with help from the Kurds) that 
>caught him. The fact that I also hold the US and Europe accountable for the 
>role they played in the whole iraq situation doesn't make me less happy 
>that saddam hussein is now finally imprisoned. When the US remove saddam 
>with no noble intensions, it doesn't mean that you cannot be pleased with 
>the effect, does it?
>And I was just wondering why it wouldn't be a good idea go after someone 
>like saddam hussein, even if he doesn't have WMD? Isn't not caring about 
>him getting away disrespecting his victims?
>But of course I do agree that double standards are being used by the US 
>when deciding who they should "go after" and it probably is indeed a 
>compensation for not finding osama and boosting the american ego.
>
>Greetings, Mei
>
>
>
>>From: "Kate Ahmad" <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: RE: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] saddam's capture
>>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:57:27 +1100
>>
>>Asalaamu alaikum,
>>I agree with you.  I didn't feel any happiness when I heard Saddam had 
>>been captured.  And when Bush started gloating about the Iraqi people 
>>being free now etc etc, it almost made me wish it hadn't happened.  I'm 
>>sure Bush will convince people now that the war was worth it, even though 
>>the capture of Saddam was not 'the' initial goal.
>>My other question is - is it Saddam for sure?  Everytime he appeared on TV 
>>in the last few years, they would analyse it, and go on about all his look 
>>alikes, so how do we know that this one is him??!
>>
>>Wa'salaam
>>Aisha
>>
>>>From: "Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]>
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] saddam's capture
>>>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:53:28 -0800
>>>
>>
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