Re: Yvon Garlan on military architecture

"DANIEL P. Tompkins" <[email protected]> Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:07:34 -0500
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Well, intriguing.  Garlan doesn't say *all *alls protect democracy!

Vauban served Louix XIV.  NB Garlan's first book concerned not antiquity
but *Les révoltes bretonnes de 1675 : papier timbré et bonnets rouges
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*Fascinatingly when I visited him in 2013, modern *bonnets rouges *were busily
toppling tollgates
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(which recorded taxable goods), mounting *opérations escargot*, and other
activities.  Quite a place, Brittany.

It was evident, from the empty parking lots around empty factories there,
that globalization had taken its toll on industry.  Also on agriculture.

Dan

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:57 PM Laval Hunsucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > . . . as he concludes that fortifications are not merely "economic" but
> > promote the *épanouissement*, "blooming," of democracy and "civic
> > forces."  One of several brilliant pieces. . .
>
> Interesting, but makes me immediately and ineluctably wonder what, say, the
> Marquis de Vauban, for example, might have thought or said of such a line
> of reasoning .
>
>
> - Laval Hunsucker
>   Brœuquelenne-les-deux-églises, Pays-Bas
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 4:21 PM DANIEL P. Tompkins <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> In the wonderful volume *Problèmes de la guerre en Grèce ancienne*, ed.
> > Vernant  (1968), Garlan opens his essay on "fortifications" with the
> > remark,  “military architecture is often treated in archaeology like a
> poor
> > relative” ("l'architecture militaire a été souvent considérée comme une
> > parente pauvre...").  He goes on to use Plato and Aristotle as he
> concludes
> > that fortifications are not merely "economic" but promote the
> > *épanouissement*, "blooming," of democracy and "civic forces."  One of
> > several brilliant pieces in a book that has more to say about sociology
> of
> > ancient warfare than many more recent ones.
> >
> > Dan
> >
>