Re: Fielding an error ?

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One problem related to fielding an error is that the implicit agreement
that a bid is the agreed meaning plus a possibility of a particular sorry
of error maybe an illegal agreement. Or more often will have retired am
alert.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, 11:47 Steve Willner, <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9/20/2018 2:16 AM, Herman De Wael wrote:
> > Of course this is not something you can poll, because any pollee will
> > immediately assume that [forgetting] is indeed what has happened.
>
> I guess it wasn't clear how to poll.  Of course you don't tell pollees
> anything about forgetting.  You give them the system as it was explained
> at the table, and ask what call they choose.  If some pass or even say
> pass is worth considering, there's no evidence of MI.  If they all say
> pass is nuts, you can be pretty sure forgetting was part of the player's
> consideration, and failing to disclose it was MI.
>
> There's also, of course, the question of damage.  Even if given proper
> information, the NOS wouldn't necessarily have gone right.  That needs a
> careful look at the hands, and a weighted score seems likely.
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<div dir=3D"auto">One problem related to fielding an error is that the impl=
icit agreement that a bid is the agreed meaning plus a possibility of a par=
ticular sorry of error maybe an illegal agreement. Or more often will have =
retired am alert.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, 11:47 Steve Willner, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:swillner@=
nhcc.net">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">On 9/20/2018 2:16 AM, Herman De Wael wrote:<br>
&gt; Of course this is not something you can poll, because any pollee will<=
br>
&gt; immediately assume that [forgetting] is indeed what has happened.<br>
<br>
I guess it wasn&#39;t clear how to poll.=C2=A0 Of course you don&#39;t tell=
 pollees <br>
anything about forgetting.=C2=A0 You give them the system as it was explain=
ed <br>
at the table, and ask what call they choose.=C2=A0 If some pass or even say=
 <br>
pass is worth considering, there&#39;s no evidence of MI.=C2=A0 If they all=
 say <br>
pass is nuts, you can be pretty sure forgetting was part of the player&#39;=
s <br>
consideration, and failing to disclose it was MI.<br>
<br>
There&#39;s also, of course, the question of damage.=C2=A0 Even if given pr=
oper <br>
information, the NOS wouldn&#39;t necessarily have gone right.=C2=A0 That n=
eeds a <br>
careful look at the hands, and a weighted score seems likely.<br>
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