Re: [CAT23-Ngame] A rules questions
Packrat <[email protected]> Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT)
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The support is as valid as GOB sup F NWY to STP (nc). My understanding has been, and is, that as long as the unit can move into the SPACE (STP or SPA) the support is valid.=A0 Yes, it seems odd but over the years this is the interpretation that I have seen used most often.=A0 Well, always. There is, as one might suspect, a difference between a support order and a move.=A0 You support into the province, you move into the space (coas= t). ----- Original Message ---- From: Babak Talebi <[email protected]> To: 1200group <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Do= uglas Kent <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 3:57:40 AM Subject: [CAT23-Ngame] A rules questions Friends - Two dip players of some experience have come to a disagreement on a rules question. If you could shed light on this situation, it would be most appreciated. *The Situation:* F Por to Spa(sc) F Gas S F Por to Spa(sc) *The Question:* ** is the order for F Gas *Void* or *Valid* *The Rules:* On page 7 in the 4th edition of the rules ( http://www.diplomac y-archive. com/resources/ rulebooks/ 2000AH4th. pdf) tw= o relevant quotes can be found... 1) "A fleet that can move to a province with two separate coasts (A fleet in the Mid-Atlantic for example) can support another Army or Fleet into tha= t province (in this case Spain) without regard to separate coastlines." (2nd paragraph - 2nd column) 2) "The province to which a unit is providing support must be one to which the supporting unit could have legally moved during that turn. ...Likewise = a Fleet in Rome could not support a unit's move to Venice because, although adjacent by land, the Fleet can not move to Venice from Rome." (1st paragraph - 2nd column) *The Arguments:* ** one reading of these rules is that "If you can move to a province you can support ANY action in that province. period". ie - the fleet in Gas can support Por to Spa(sc) because it can itself move to Spa thus making the support order *Valid*. the second reading is that since Spa(sc) is not a province that the supporting unit (F Gas) 'could have legally moved' to, it is thus an illega= l support and therefore *Void*. I leave this earth-shattering question to these august bodies of wisdom on Cat23 and look forward to reading various judicious opinions on the matter. Has this been resolved elsewhere? I am told by my fellow diplomacy player that he is 100% positive of his position and since I hold him and his experience in high regard, I am inclined to agree with him - but felt that due to my minor doubt, I should consult with the rest of the village elders first. (ps. I still have not told you all which position I have taken in this) Babak [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] =20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------