Re: Solo AND alliance player

"Ray Setzer" <mczet-1urT0Is/[email protected]> Sun, 8 Feb 2004 12:36:32 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.worldmasters.chat.wm2002
Message-ID <002101c3ee72$79fca9f0$0600a8c0@Max>
Ah, right. There was a fair amout of DB stuff lost when the old Cat23 server
got hacked on, so we ended up recreating as best we could.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Len Tennant" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Solo AND alliance player


> I  must be pretty dumb.  The best I can find is the Round 1 results for
> WM00 and WM99.  I don't really know who made it to the semis so its hard
> to test the solo target theory.
> Len
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Setzer" <mczet-1urT0Is/[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Solo AND alliance player
>
>
> You can check pretty easy. The DB's are at the WM headquarters:
> http://www.worldmasters.net/portal
> Go to the worldmasters tab and then subtabs for 00 and 99
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Len Tennant" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Solo AND alliance player
>
>
> > Are there any stats on how many of the 7 finalists in the last WM
> solo'd
> > in Round 1 or 2?  And how many of the 42 semi final losers had a solo
> in
> > Round 1 or 2?
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ray Setzer" <mczet-1urT0Is/[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Solo AND alliance player
> >
> >
> > What should it matter who soloed or no in any prior rounds. Its not
> like
> > anything carrys over.
> >
> > You can argue that there really are no alliance players in the semi's
> > since only one person from each board can advance. Its either top or
> > your done. Perhaps a couple players may gang up on some prior solo
> > getter, but I'd say that really had nothing to do with the solo, but
> > rather that those players saw advantage in getting control of  some
> > section of the board quickly. And even with that in mind, its likely
> > that the other players on the board will try and either scuttle that,
> or
> > take advantage of it in some other way.
> >
> > Its the semifinals man, you either bring your best game or you go
> home.
> > If your distracted by what someone may or may not have done in a prior
> > round, your likely to detour from your best moves.
> >
> > Take Yann for example...please. I don't trust him any further than I
> can
> > throw a piano, but I do know that he won't engage in a pointless stab,
> > he won't wander off topic seeking revenge from some real or imagined
> > slight, but I also would be an idiot to leave open centers lying about
> > where he can grab them.
> >
> > I predict that people will play the board as it lies, and won't give a
> > rats behind about what happened in any prior round.
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Peter J Richardson
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 10:40 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Solo AND alliance player
> >
> >
> >   I suppose all this depends upon whether the soloist's ally throws
> the
> > solo.
> >
> >   Regards
> >   Peter
> >
> >
> >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >     From: Andrew Stupple
> >     To: [email protected]
> >     Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:28 AM
> >     Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Solo AND alliance player
> >
> >
> >     Good question. Of course, soloists from round 2 will argue that
> very
> > point, whilst others will argue that a soloist cannot be an alliance
> > player by the very nature of the fact that he/she ruthlessly soloed in
> > round 2 (or at least one in rounds 1 and 2). .
> >
> >
> >
> >     Yann Clouet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >       Funny demarcation.
> >       Why would being an alliance player and a solo-goer be exclusive
> ?
> >
> >       (BTW hi to the list ;-)
> >         ----- Original Message ----- 
> >         From: Andrew Stupple
> >         To: [email protected]
> >         Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:20 AM
> >         Subject: Re: [wm02-chat] Getting close:
> >
> >
> >         I'm not convinced that all players in the third round, will
> have
> > a passing aquaintance with solos themselves. There is probably just as
> > many allinace players as ruthless go-getters, which will make the
> semis
> > very exciting.
> >
> >         It's going to be a blood bath!
> >
> >
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