Re: Comments on Composition and Comportment of the IETF Nominating Committee draft

Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> Wed, 8 Jul 2026 09:40:32 +1200
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 08-Jul-26 09:23, John Levine wrote:
> It appears that Mallory Knodel  <[email protected]> said:
>> Sure. But, is this process… working? There is no data.
>>
>> (Other than abysmal gender representation.)
> 
> We know who applies for each position and who the nomcom selects. When you
> looked at the relative diversity of the applicants and the selectees in recent
> years, what did you find?
> 
> No amount of futzing with the nomcom process is going to make a difference if
> the only applicants are (to oversimplify only slightly) two guys from the San
> Francisco suburbs. We need to work on making the IETF as a whole more welcoming
> to as wide a range of people as practical. I know it's possible because I've
> seen it happen at M3AAWG and (for all its faults) ICANN, both of which have way
> more women in leadership roles than we do.

I think the root of the problem is deeper - it lies within the corporate
culture of the networking part of the IT industry. Who gets funded to participate
in the IETF and to travel to meetings? Of course we should do what we can to
make the IETF attractive to everybody - maybe ISOC could run a campaign - but
the problem is definitely in the "supply chain".

     Brian
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> R's,
> John
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