Re: Individual submission referred to a BoF that cannot adopt: what is the intended path?

Michael Richardson <[email protected]> Sat, 15 Aug 2026 15:08:24 -0400

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Henri Sirkkavaara <[email protected]> wrote:
    > What is the intended path for an individual submission when the venue it is referred to does not exist yet?

You wait :-)

    > draft-sirkkavaara-vaara-receipt-00 was posted on 21 June 2026. On 28
    > June the Independent Submissions Editor moved it into the ISE stream,
    > set the intended status to Informational, and set the ISE state to
    > Submission Received. On 2 August the stream was changed from ISE to
    > none, with the document redirected to the agentproto discussion on the
    > grounds that the subject matter overlaps.

The ISE will go through a deconflict process.
This is to make sure that documents do not come to the ISE to try to get
around WG process on the same topic.

    > agentproto is a BoF. It is not chartered. The datatracker states that
    > it is not accepting document adoption.

Until agentproto is either a WG with a charter, or is rejected, the ISE can't
finish the deconflict.

Posting an I-D is never a guarantee that there is a path forward.

..
    > Second, is there a defined point at which the conflict is considered
    > resolved, either by the group chartering or by it not chartering, and
    > does the author need to do anything to restart the ISE process at that
    > point?

If by the end of 127, there isn't word, then I'd just ask Eliot.
I think it will likely resolve sooner, and it's AUGUST.   It's always slow.

    > Third, is there a way for an author to tell the difference between a
    > hold that will resolve and one that will not? From the outside, the
    > datatracker shows the same thing in both cases.

Ask.

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