Re: Intent to revive "expires" header from draft-ietf-mailext-new-fields-15

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Keith Moore wrote:
>
> yet another configuration knob to twiddle for an interface (MUA to message
> store) that's already notoriously hard for users to get right.
>
> heck, we still have WAY too many people using POP or IMAP with cleartext
> passwords, mostly because that's the configuration that "works" with all
> clients and servers, and partially because there's no uniform language to
> describe the other configurations.  (does "use secure authentication" mean
> APOP, or POP+SSL over a reserved port, or POP with the STARTTLS command?)

Usually none of the above :-) i.e. Microsoft proprietary authentication.

Of course MUAs should just use the protocol's negotiation features to
auto-configure the most secure settings possible. I get so annoyed that
they don't.

Tony.
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