Re: WSJ/gmail/ML, was a permission to...

> > Isn't that one of those changes that Miles talked about in [1]?
> > [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87865.html
> >
> > Many SMTP servers used to standardize message format, and stopped in
> > order to avoid breaking DKIM signatures.  Won't ML do so too?

> I think you're confusing SMTP with SUBMIT here.

No, he's not. A lot of changes done by SMTP servers have been disabled to deal
with DKIM. SUBMIT and delivery time fixups are not being disabled AFAICT;
nobody cares about end users being able to apply or check DKIM signatures.

THe IETF has long maintained a sort of end-to-end fantsay view of how email
works, while simultaneously standardizing and fully condoning stuff that
doesn't work this way. MIME upgrading and downgrading are the obvious example
here, but there are others.

As for mailing lists, the notion that they are going to stop makes deep changes
to messages is also a fantasy. Again, there's an obvious example: The insertion
of legal disclaimers is an absolute requirement for some lists.

				Ned

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