Re: WSJ/gmail/ML, was a permission to...

"John R Levine" <[email protected]> 4 May 2014 11:40:30 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.rfc822
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> FWIW, I agree with Arnt on this one. In fact the case has yet to be made that
> DKIM-based whitelisting of list mail is more than a nice-to-have; per-user
> whitelisting on the basis of List-id alone along with the usual checks for
> blatent viruses and whatnot seems to work pretty well.

Currently, I agree with you.  But if List-ID always meant to skip the 
DMARC rejection checks, how long would it take for every paypal.com phish 
to include a List-ID?  Presumably competent filters would subsequently 
catch it, but it would make DMARC, which is intended to be a cheap 
anti-phish technique, totally pointless.

Per-user whitelisting on List-ID strikes me has having horrible scaling 
issues.  How can we know who's subscribed to what?  Or if we plan to know 
what List-ID's to believe, we're back at a shared mailing list whitelist.

Regards,
John Levine, [email protected], Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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