Re: SIMPLE and Emergency Services

"Olle E. Johansson" <[email protected]> Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:53:25 +0100
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1 nov 2012 kl. 19:45 skrev Bernard Aboba <[email protected]>:

> Olle said:
>=20
> "have 3gpp tested interoperability of SIMPLE across vendors? The =
ability to add buddies and share buddy lists, regardless of client? Just =
curious of the process."
>=20
> [BA] AFAIK, there has been no interoperability testing of SIMPLE in =
emergency services scenarios (e.g. NENA ICE), and I am not aware of any =
emergency service providers that support either MSRP or MESSAGE.  The =
vast majority of SIP service providers also do not support SIMPLE, even =
for basic scenarios such as sending/receiving SMS via MESSAGE.   Given =
the potential timelines for shutdown of POTS (e.g. projections indicate =
that POTS will not longer be economically viable by 2018) and the =
transition to next generation emergency services (by the time POTS is =
shut down, we better have NG PSAPs), there is still quite a bit of work =
to do.=20
>=20
Thanks for your information.

I'm personally a bit involved in the Swedish implementation of emergency =
services, so this is important information. In Sweden, the goal is to =
allow enterprises to call directly, bypassing the SIP trunks. That way =
we could possibly get more support for non-phone-call SIP, like MESSAGE =
or MSRP.

My questions to Keith was more general - not specific to emergency =
services. Sorry, I should have changed the subject.

/O=

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dir=3D"ltr">Olle said:<br><br>"have 3gpp tested interoperability of =
SIMPLE across vendors? The ability to add buddies and share buddy lists, =
regardless of client? Just curious of the process."<br><br>[BA] AFAIK, =
there has been no interoperability testing of SIMPLE in emergency =
services scenarios (e.g. NENA ICE), and I am not aware of any emergency =
service providers that support either MSRP or MESSAGE.&nbsp; The vast =
majority of SIP service providers also do not support SIMPLE, even for =
basic scenarios such as sending/receiving SMS via MESSAGE.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Given the potential timelines for shutdown of POTS (e.g. projections =
indicate that POTS will not longer be economically viable by 2018) and =
the transition to next generation emergency services (by the time POTS =
is shut down, we better have NG PSAPs), there is still quite a bit of =
work to do.<span =
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ote>Thanks for your information.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm personally =
a bit involved in the Swedish implementation of emergency services, so =
this is important information. In Sweden, the goal is to allow =
enterprises to call directly, bypassing the SIP trunks. That way we =
could possibly get more support for non-phone-call SIP, like MESSAGE or =
MSRP.</div><div><br></div><div>My questions to Keith was more general - =
not specific to emergency services. Sorry, I should have changed the =
subject.</div><div><br></div><div>/O</div></body></html>=

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