Re: Gentoo Linux into the future

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Nice mail, just my $0.02c, I havn't had long to digest all this, but
here are my thoughts so far.  My mind my change.

> I think that making Gentoo more organized is a very good ide. As the
> number of Gentoo users grow so dose the number of Gentoo server. As a
> Gentoo user I fell fine. But a sysadmin has other needs then the user.
> In my experience a sysadmin has the following needs:
> 1. Time. Especially in the privet sector you can't spend days on end
> setting up a server.

Very good point, although this is how im doing it in the field at the
moment, i have some basic roll-outs that i've built, but these arn't
public and I cant afford to hose them.

> 2. Stability. We have to trust that the packets that we emerge are
> stable enough for our production servers. Testing them out ourselves
> takes to much time (ref point number one)

True, maybe we could setup another profile for the GSP  ? (Jumping ahead
of this mail there maybe)

> 3. Other security needs. We need secure systems but without loosing too
> much user friendliness.

Another good point, although we are starting from a good base system,
security and user-friendly ness dont usually go hand in hand.

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> I also want to ask Klieber if he would like to represent the Gentoo
> server community as he is already a top level developer. He is already a
> frequent user of the #gentoo-server and a dam good linux Gentoo user,
> sysadmin, developer. He has both the skill and the knowledge to do the
> job.=20

No challenges here.

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> The goal of this discussion should be to com up with a unified response
> from the Gentoo server community to the new structure.
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> This is my point of view and I would like to here your comments on it.
> Please feel free to add some points if you like.=20
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> For:
> 1. A Gentoo sysadmin and server environment has other needs then you
> average Gentoo user and we have to make sure that this is also considers
> when decisions for the future and structure of Gentoo is taken.
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> 2
> . Linux is a server based os.
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> Against:
> 1. We should not isolate us form the other Gentoo users (we are also
> users :) )We should not involve ourselves in any form of groupism.
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Can you clarify what you mean by that ?

> 2. The top level development tree should be as short as possible. Maybe
> we should make a sub project of Gentoo-alt. If so would this ensure that
> the Gentoo server related issues were properly represented at the top
> level? Please give comments/suggestions to this point.
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> WorkTooMutch
> "I never make any typos, all my e-mails are encrypted."=20
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