Re: GNOME 49 and SysV systems (possibly affecting other DEs in the future too)

"Rainer Fiebig" ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing List) <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:40:58 +0200
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Am 21.10.25 um 19:14 schrieb Alexandru Mihai Buzduc
([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing List):
> "Immediately drop Gnome or suspend support for it. Enough is enough, I
> think. Use freed up ressources for better purposes."
> 
> GNOME is one of the most used if not the most used DE on Linux, so getting
From what I see and hear, "most-used" is questionable and its popularity
seems to be rather on a downward than upward trajectory.  GNOME-3 has
snubbed too many users, I think.

> rid of it would be detrimental to the overall project. There are also
It would certainly be a drastic measure.  Or a liberating coup.  Depends
on how you look at it.  At any rate it would be a signal to make people
sit up and take notice.  Including systemd-only proponents in other
DE/DM-projects.

I don't think that removing/suspending GNOME would harm this primarily
educational project.  Users don't come to LFS because of GNOME.  They
come because they want to better understand a Linux-system by building
one.  And perhaps because they want to be more digitally independent.

> plenty of other packages that depend on its various programs and libraries,
> so those will have to be removed as well.
Imagine the time the overworked maintainers would save!  The idea must
be rather enticing for them, I assume.

But as there are already ALFS, MLFS, GLFS and SLFS besides LFS and BLFS
perhaps someone would want to set up and maintain GLFS (or GNOLFS?) as
the new "Home for GNOME"?

> 
> I for one would actually prefer to actually work around the issue then to
> just scrap the whole thing, so options 1 and 3 are already more than
> suitable outcomes on how to resolve this.
What I would prefer is that GNOME stops making it practically impossible
to use other init-systems than systemd.  That would be good for the
Linux-ecosystem and its users.  Many problems would then just vanish.

Rainer

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