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Betreff: Re: [blfs-support] Fwd: Fwd: Compile of glycin failed
Datum: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 12:38:45 +0100
Von: Maurice van der Stee <[email protected]>
An: Rainer Fiebig <[email protected]>

I am writing this to you driectly becasue one, I don;t want to bother
the list withtthis and secondly I have no desire to make a fool of you.

If it pleases you I'll gladly copy this to the list.

You are always so exact, you think, but do you know the meaning of
recommended dependency ? I guess you do. So if glycin is recommended,
it is definitely needed somewhere. That you don;t know it is another
matter, but don't tell people it is not needed. Yes I know you said
'strictly" but that is probably overlooked by people,
Why this seems a private war is because you expressed your annoyance
with glycin needing rust and the cargo build system. Then any moment
you see a chance you again say you don't need glycin. 

Very similar to your ranting about systemd and anyway that is implied
also in the status recommended and not

That you don't like them fine, its a free world, but other people might
not be interested in your opinion here.
On Tue, 2026-03-24 at 11:31 +0100, Rainer Fiebig wrote:
> Am 24.03.26 um 11:03 schrieb Rainer Fiebig ([email protected] via
> blfs-support Mailing List):
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> > Betreff: Re: [blfs-support] Fwd: Compile of glycin failed
> > Datum: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 10:49:05 +0100
> > Von: Maurice van der Stee <[email protected]>
> > An: Rainer Fiebig <[email protected]>
> > 
> > Rineeeeeeer,
> 
> Please stay civilized.  Thanks.
> 
> > 
> > I know you use that godawful  KDE, But if you would use GNOME,
> > building
> > gdk-pixbuf without glycin will redenr it proactically useless.
> 
> Maybe - but I don't use Gnome.  And I don't want to spend time
> building
> it just to know that gdk-pixbuf without glycin may be useless for it.
> 
> > 
> > So please stop sending people in the wrong direction. Or at least
> > add
> 
> Where have I sent anybody in the wrong direction?  You _can_ build
> gdk-pixbuf without glycin, I said nothing else.  Nor did I recommend
> to
> do so.  But the option is there for a reason.  And I made my post
> with
> good intent, based on own experience.
> 
> > the qualification if you don't use gnome.
> 
> That's plain crazy.  Do you really expect everybody now to mention
> what
> he/she uses (or not) in every post?
> 
> > 
> > I'm getting a little tired of you private wars.
> 
> I'm not aware that I'm at war with anything or anybody here, neither
> "private" nor "public".  If you think that I am, you may be suffering
> from delusions.
> 
> And please: have the guts to always reply to the list.  Thanks.
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
> >      On Tue, 2026-03-24 at 10:10 +0100, Rainer Fiebig wrote:  > Am
> > 24.03.26 um 09:55 schrieb nicP ([email protected] via blfs-support
> > > Mailing List):
> > > > Le 24/03/2026 à 09:08, Rainer Fiebig a écrit :
> > > > > Am 24.03.26 um 01:25 schrieb Stephan Hunker
> > > > > ([email protected]
> > > > > via blfs-support Mailing List):
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 8:12 AM Manfred Hahn <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > > > > > Von: Manfred Hahn <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Date: Fr., 20. März 2026 um 15:07 Uhr
> > > > > > > Subject: Compile of glycin failed
> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On my way to gtk3 I'm stuck compiling glycin. Logfile
> > > > > > > > attached.
> > > > > > > > The mentioned command 'rustc -vV' works on the command
> > > > > > > > line
> > > > > > > > and gives
> > > > > > > > the following output:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > rustc 1.89.0 (29483883e 2025-08-04) (for BLFS 12.4)
> > > > > > > > binary: rustc
> > > > > > > > commit-hash: 29483883eed69d5fb4db01964cdf2af4d86e9cb2
> > > > > > > > commit-date: 2025-08-04
> > > > > > > > host: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> > > > > > > > release: 1.89.0
> > > > > > > > LLVM version: 20.1.8
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I can not determine the directory which cannot be used
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > created by
> > > > > > > meson.
> > > > > > > > Any help wellcome
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Compile now succeeded!
> > > > > > > What I did different:
> > > > > > > - compile in text mode (before in XWindow)
> > > > > > > - patches done in a separate step (before I had a batch
> > > > > > > file
> > > > > > > with all
> > > > > > > commands)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Don't really know why this make a difference, but it
> > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Manfred
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/sympa/info/blfs-support
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> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Interestingly, I ran into this issue as well on the path to
> > > > > > building
> > > > > > lightdm (which requires Exo, which requires GTK, which
> > > > > > requires
> > > > > > gdk-pixbuf). In BLFS 13.0, you have a circular dependency
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > glycin, in
> > > > > > which you have to build gdk twice - once before, and once
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > installing
> > > > > > glycin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I tried to install glycin, I got the error you
> > > > > > described.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > could not
> > > > > > figure out how to fix it at the time (I was also in an X
> > > > > > session,
> > > > > > icewm at
> > > > > > the time using xterm).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I realized that in BLFS 12.4, glycin is not required for
> > > > > > gdk-
> > > > > > pixbuf,
> > > > > > so my
> > > > > > workaround was to install the prior version of gdk-pixbuf,
> > > > > > 2.42.12. This
> > > > > > worked great.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Glycin is not strictly "required" for gdk-pixbuf, only
> > > > > "recommended".
> > > > > You could build gdk-pixbuf without glycin by using option
> > > > > 
> > > > >     -Dglycin=disabled       \
> > > > > 
> > > > > The description for glycin is "The glycin package contains a
> > > > > sandboxed
> > > > > and extendable image loading framework."  Well, whatever that
> > > > > means, I
> > > > > never needed it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rainer
> > > > > 
> > > > True. But with gdk-pixbuf built without glycin, gtkmm-3.24.10
> > > > failed to
> > > > build. I didn't keep record of the errors reported, but they
> > > > were
> > > > related to gdk-pixbuf.
> > > 
> > > Glycin is not listed as a dependency for gtkmm.  It may lurk
> > > somewhere
> > > in the dependency-chain but I don't have time to explore that.
> > > 
> > > Rainer
> > 
> > 

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