Fwd: Re: [OM Cooker] Are we still doing this moderation? Really?
Blackcrack Moondrake <[email protected]> Thu, 01 Aug 2013 14:54:47 +0200
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Datum: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:29:26 +0200 Von: Blackcrack <[email protected]> Antwort an: Cooker OpenMandriva <[email protected]> An: Cooker OpenMandriva <[email protected]>, Jochen=20 Sch=F6nfelder arisel <[email protected]>, Per =D8yvind Karlsen=20 <[email protected]> Hi, Am 01.08.2013 02:18, schrieb Ben Bullard: > I'm thinking we need outside mediation to resolve this conflict. > Obviously internal discussion/meetings have produced no result > acceptable to all involved. > > Just one humble users opinion. > i think a real Meeting it is in this case maybe more important.. the Travel money has get the Association as support for an general/Common HeatMeeting on Paris or maybe Germany or were ever on this Eurpe continent for regulate this troubles once and for ever .. An Developer - TCHeadMeeting all 2 Years it is maybe not bad for speaking out and resolve the Problems, Troubles and planing in the next 2 Years in Realtime .. This support should be possible from the Association .. (or why else do we have a Association.. for exactly like this ! imo) An TC HeadMeeting for Packers and Developers (include Per =D8yvind Karlsen he is an Member of the Mandriva Distriebution to, maybe not in the Association but an Member on the on the Pot and it is therewith an Developer too ! ) in my opinion as Member of the Artworkgroup and As Long Year Extended Mandrake User ! And at last it is this Distribution For the User and whole the other who want using this Distribution. an problem resolving in the the ranks of the Developer and Packer it is just as necessary as a correckte cooperation 2. Moderation .. maybe it is Rules for common live important too, but to ban the mouth it is like an Gun on the Mouth, also not correct .. the live it is even an Pot of different Opinions .. an moderation it is only good for real Trolls (and this it is Per not !!) or real Project Destroyer ( and this is per also not !!! ) Per have maybe his own will and shows some other like they are who comes later to this project and don't knows what's realy goes on ..i be since the start on this Project, i had Telephoning with Jean Manuel Croset on Phone, he had call me at the 2nd phoning from Paris at the evening .. I now like a give what's goes on there directly.. some it is not like it as it seems .. me have not take in to the Association because i be an troublemaker .. i am ?? sorry.. not really .. i make only troubles if goes something wrong .. but there be already the troubles.. but because not me ! Per.. rules be on the live.. and need in the live, you know it .. so please, http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines in the Mailinglist .. fellow them.. Per, what do you do in you own Mailinglist it is other .. but, play the game with on the Cooker-OM-Association-Overtaker-game fellow this rules : http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines and you be not Moderated.. And Per.. Arisel be not you enemy .. the next.. Moondrake or an other Distriebution .. Hey, why supporting Openmandriva and if comes Mageia and the whole other Distributions and at last tell they are an other Distribution it is not needed and supported.. ? .. like Moondrake ? hey sorry, other Distributor other soul of the Distribution, in the spice is the variety why so not supporting an 2nd Distriebution by side of OpenMandriva .. i tell you why, you whant as Association not lost the hands over the Distriebutions into the Community, because, the moondrake can be more important as OM, why.. the Installer and the feeling it is more them of the Mandrake and not them of OM .. and you have scare to lost the hand over both distributions .. because the Developers show now what's goes really on .. with the Game of the Association .... and this it is my show of the things and my opinion .. So Arisel, maby it is better if be Per unmoderatet if he fellow the OM-Cooker -Rules http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines Please ask him again .. Per, Please, read the Rules and fellow this in the Chanels of Open Mandriva, what it is in your own cooker-chanell's or how offen you tell fuXXX or basXXXs say in you chanel it is else as you say it in OM-Chanells .. Rules be createt in them Groups in them chanells were you have to fellow .. and you have you own rules in you won Chanel and at last if it is in any way possible to create an Moondrake , so have you you own rules in you own Distribution in you own Forum and own Wiki or something else .. So, please create an real TC Head Meeting on this continent in the next half Year for speaking out at all and for making plans in the next 2-3 Years ! Some Meeting it is Important to show together eye in eye and tell ear in ear what's going on.. that you can also discuss 1:1 ! So, please make a general TC meeting where all developer and Packer are present! PLEASE ! Not in Mailinglist, not in IRC, -> IN REALTIME ! And travel expenses should shall be borne by the Association. ( because what the Association otherwise is there to draw the Distribution? No, I think not! The Community and Developers and at last the Users have this to do ! ) so.. please unmoderated Per.. and Per, please Fellow the Rules in OM-Chanells (comes what want.. in you own Chanel) ! just my 2=A2 i go now to buy eat, do my errands and be away for now.. best regards Blacky Blackcrack Blackysgate.de --------------010702040402040400070309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br> <div class="moz-forward-container"><br> <br> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Betreff: </th> <td>Re: [OM Cooker] [Cooker] Are we still doing this moderation? Really?</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Datum: </th> <td>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:29:26 +0200</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Von: </th> <td>Blackcrack <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Antwort an: </th> <td>Cooker OpenMandriva <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">An: </th> <td>Cooker OpenMandriva <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a>, Jochen Schönfelder arisel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a>, Per Øyvind Karlsen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <pre>Hi, Am 01.08.2013 02:18, schrieb Ben Bullard: > I'm thinking we need outside mediation to resolve this conflict. > Obviously internal discussion/meetings have produced no result > acceptable to all involved. > > Just one humble users opinion. > i think a real Meeting it is in this case maybe more important.. the Travel money has get the Association as support for an general/Common HeatMeeting on Paris or maybe Germany or were ever on this Eurpe continent for regulate this troubles once and for ever .. An Developer - TCHeadMeeting all 2 Years it is maybe not bad for speaking out and resolve the Problems, Troubles and planing in the next 2 Years in Realtime .. This support should be possible from the Association .. (or why else do we have a Association.. for exactly like this ! imo) An TC HeadMeeting for Packers and Developers (include Per Øyvind Karlsen he is an Member of the Mandriva Distriebution to, maybe not in the Association but an Member on the on the Pot and it is therewith an Developer too ! ) in my opinion as Member of the Artworkgroup and As Long Year Extended Mandrake User ! And at last it is this Distribution For the User and whole the other who want using this Distribution. an problem resolving in the the ranks of the Developer and Packer it is just as necessary as a correckte cooperation 2. Moderation .. maybe it is Rules for common live important too, but to ban the mouth it is like an Gun on the Mouth, also not correct .. the live it is even an Pot of different Opinions .. an moderation it is only good for real Trolls (and this it is Per not !!) or real Project Destroyer ( and this is per also not !!! ) Per have maybe his own will and shows some other like they are who comes later to this project and don't knows what's realy goes on ..i be since the start on this Project, i had Telephoning with Jean Manuel Croset on Phone, he had call me at the 2nd phoning from Paris at the evening .. I now like a give what's goes on there directly.. some it is not like it as it seems .. me have not take in to the Association because i be an troublemaker .. i am ?? sorry.. not really .. i make only troubles if goes something wrong .. but there be already the troubles.. but because not me ! Per.. rules be on the live.. and need in the live, you know it .. so please, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines">http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines</a> in the Mailinglist .. fellow them.. Per, what do you do in you own Mailinglist it is other .. but, play the game with on the Cooker-OM-Association-Overtaker-game fellow this rules : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines">http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines</a> and you be not Moderated.. And Per.. Arisel be not you enemy .. the next.. Moondrake or an other Distriebution .. Hey, why supporting Openmandriva and if comes Mageia and the whole other Distributions and at last tell they are an other Distribution it is not needed and supported.. ? .. like Moondrake ? hey sorry, other Distributor other soul of the Distribution, in the spice is the variety why so not supporting an 2nd Distriebution by side of OpenMandriva .. i tell you why, you whant as Association not lost the hands over the Distriebutions into the Community, because, the moondrake can be more important as OM, why.. the Installer and the feeling it is more them of the Mandrake and not them of OM .. and you have scare to lost the hand over both distributions .. because the Developers show now what's goes really on .. with the Game of the Association .... and this it is my show of the things and my opinion .. So Arisel, maby it is better if be Per unmoderatet if he fellow the OM-Cooker -Rules <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines">http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines</a> Please ask him again .. Per, Please, read the Rules and fellow this in the Chanels of Open Mandriva, what it is in your own cooker-chanell's or how offen you tell fuXXX or basXXXs say in you chanel it is else as you say it in OM-Chanells .. Rules be createt in them Groups in them chanells were you have to fellow .. and you have you own rules in you won Chanel and at last if it is in any way possible to create an Moondrake , so have you you own rules in you own Distribution in you own Forum and own Wiki or something else .. So, please create an real TC Head Meeting on this continent in the next half Year for speaking out at all and for making plans in the next 2-3 Years ! Some Meeting it is Important to show together eye in eye and tell ear in ear what's going on.. that you can also discuss 1:1 ! So, please make a general TC meeting where all developer and Packer are present! PLEASE ! Not in Mailinglist, not in IRC, -> IN REALTIME ! And travel expenses should shall be borne by the Association. ( because what the Association otherwise is there to draw the Distribution? No, I think not! The Community and Developers and at last the Users have this to do ! ) so.. please unmoderated Per.. and Per, please Fellow the Rules in OM-Chanells (comes what want.. in you own Chanel) ! just my 2¢ i go now to buy eat, do my errands and be away for now.. best regards Blacky Blackcrack Blackysgate.de </pre> <br> </div> <br> </body> </html> --------------010702040402040400070309--