Re: [OM Cooker] Are we still doing this moderation? Really?

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2013/8/1 Robert Xu <[email protected]>

> I can't be arsed to respond to the debate below... Although I'll
> reiterate, like I did in a past email - we can debate all we want, but it
> matters NOTHING if we can't do something about it.
>
> Want my proposal? Demoderate people on om-cooker and let's try this all
> over again.
>
> It at least brings an end to the current situation, and that is a
> worthwhile solution.
>
> Arisel: yes, while I'm sure the association is supposed to be the vehicle
> for coordinating things, they crashed and screwed up on this issue big
> time. So time to undo and try again.
>
Aside: Association is not "they", you're part of it an as you noticed, as
soon as you asked about qa team, you became coordinator without any
condition, just we asked: what do you need? Same for all teams, infra,
comm, etc. If by association you mean Council, it is just a group of
members having to represent all members, manage its treasury, hardware,
legal stuff (including naming) and preparing the overall structure.

There were problems only with one person that was excluded from council
from not respecting what was voted in it, (was a problem of behaviour), and
I hope this is past now, if by "Association" you mean council, it has
nothing to do with the moderation as cooker is autonomous.

The association is part of groups that are intended to be autonomous. The
development team (which is called historically cooker) is part of it, and
apparently has difficulties to self-organize. It's not such big deal. There
is no "crash" nor "screw" no reason to continue a drama here.

There is however to think at the next step to resolve these problems, and
stop listening at legends and feeding them.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">2013/8/1 Robert Xu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robxu9@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote =
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I can&#39;t be arsed to respond to the debate below... Altho=
ugh I&#39;ll reiterate, like I did in a past email - we can debate all we w=
ant, but it matters NOTHING if we can&#39;t do something about it.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Want my proposal? Demoderate people on om-cooker and let&#39=
;s try this all over again.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">It at least brings an end to the current situation, and that=
 is a worthwhile solution.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Arisel: yes, while I&#39;m sure the association is supposed =
to be the vehicle for coordinating things, they crashed and screwed up on t=
his issue big time. So time to undo and try again.</p></blockquote><div>

Aside: Association is not &quot;they&quot;, you&#39;re part of it an as you=
 noticed, as soon as you asked about qa team, you became coordinator withou=
t any condition, just we asked: what do you need? Same for all teams, infra=
, comm, etc. If by association you mean Council, it is just a group of memb=
ers having to represent all members, manage its treasury, hardware, legal s=
tuff (including naming) and preparing the overall structure.</div>

<div><br></div><div>There were problems only with one person that was exclu=
ded from council from not respecting what was voted in it, (was a problem o=
f behaviour), and I hope this is past now, if by &quot;Association&quot; yo=
u mean council, it has nothing to do with the moderation as cooker is auton=
omous.</div>

<div><br></div><div>The association is part of groups that are intended to =
be autonomous. The development team (which is called historically cooker) i=
s part of it, and apparently has difficulties to self-organize. It&#39;s no=
t such big deal. There is no &quot;crash&quot; nor &quot;screw&quot; no rea=
son to continue a drama here.=C2=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>There is however to think at the next step to resolve t=
hese problems, and stop listening at legends and feeding them.</div></div><=
/div></div>

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