Re: About translations

Hello everybody, my name is Julia Dronova I'm one of a new translators
in Russian team. I want to say that by now the whole localization
structure is messed, just like almost everything in Mandriva. We'll
need some time (after releasing 2011) to decide what to do with all
these problems and to sketch and build some good working structure
where minimum efforts will be needed from the translators' side to
care about upstream commiting.
Yes the developers (in Rosa team at least) are aware of the problem
and by now they definitely know that translators do need somebody who
will do svn-commiting on regular basis, but my opinion on the subject
is that we really need some engine (new or existing somewhere on
FreshMeat, google-code etc) to automate both the translating part and
svn-commiting just not to depend too much on developers+let them do
their coding calmly.

On 25 August 2011 20:32, Marek Laane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> 2011/8/25 <[email protected]>
>>
>> > I totally agree with statistic in transifex, especially if the
>> > http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/et/ is not being synced
>> > anymore.
>> >
>> > --
>> > bedi
>> I think, at last for old translators, that they still could use the comm=
it
>> direct to svn method, instead only transifex, actually, i prefer to
>> translate
>> direct on svn, but for new comers it may be better transifex, but true i=
s,
>> both
>> http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats and transifex should work, and the
>> translator
>> chooses his prefered method.
>>
>> --
>> bedi
>>
>>
> Well, being "old translator", I'm surely in no way against having Transif=
ex
> only translation environment, as it seems to be preferred method now, but
> what I'm really concerned is how translations are coming back from Transi=
fex
> to SVN - AFAIK translations for release are still taken from SVN not
> directly from Transifex. Maybe I've forgotten something but I do not
> remember any clear decision who has to do it, we, translators, or somebod=
y
> else (mysterious translation coordinator?). Though, I seem to remember, i=
t
> was proposed to be responsibility of developers themselves but looking
> at=C2=A0http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/?sortby=3Ddate=C2=A0I rather =
doubt they
> consider it or, maybe, even know it is their responsibility...
> Marek Laane
> Estonian translator
>>
>> >
>> > Em Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:41:19 -0300, Marek Laane <[email protected]>
>> > escreveu:
>> >
>> >> First and most important: I'm really pissed of about translation
>> >> management
>> >> (or, rather mis/nonmanagement) in this development cycle and seriousl=
y
>> >> contemplating to make, after 10 years, Mandriva history for me.
>> >>
>> >> More specifically. Up to today I lived in blessed knowledge that
>> >> Estonian
>> >> translation is totally OK as the only statistics I know of (
>> >> http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/et/) showed translation =
at
>> >> 100%. Yes, I did know Transifex is in equation, too, but sadly there =
is
>> >> no
>> >> statistics, even not the ML 2011 project which could be used as
>> >> reference
>> >> point, and besides I had perception SVN and Transifex are synchronize=
d,
>> >> so I
>> >> didn't think Transifex can have updated or new strings which are not
>> >> reflected in mentioned statistics page. So, if I saw today,
>> >> mandriva-kde-translation has some new strings, I did go to Transifex
>> >> (it
>> >> is
>> >> recommended now, not directly committing in SVN, AFAIK). For some
>> >> peculiar
>> >> reason I decided to see other files, too, and was really shocked to s=
ee
>> >> many
>> >> new/updated strings. Nothing about them in mentioned statistics page,
>> >> and
>> >> even more, nobody mentioned about them to the translators, e.g. in
>> >> cooker-i18n list. Of course, I updated all of them and can now just
>> >> hope
>> >> they make it in ML 2011... But what I really cannot understand, is wh=
y
>> >> nobody at Mandriva seems to care about translations anymore... It was
>> >> bad
>> >> for last release but now I've feeling translators and translations ar=
e
>> >> absolutely abandoned...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Marek Laane
>> >> Estonian translator
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > http://www.opera.com/mail/
>> >
>>
>
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