Re: Hangouts, XMPP and KDE on-line accounts

Oliver Kurz <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.suse.kde
Message-ID <[email protected]>

On 26/11/2018 18.01, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
> Dne sobota 24. listopadu 2018 18:00:33 CET, Oliver Kurz napsal(a):
>> On 22/11/2018 14.14, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I wonder which options do we have for instant messaging (KDE, TW). I'd
>>> prefer KDE application. I need Google Hangouts (more accounts on custom
>>> domains), I can live without calling. If the application would work for
>>> XMPP/Jabber, the better. If also for IRC, the best.
>>> On-line accounts in KDE control center allow me to add Google account and
>>> it can access Drive and YouTube. Nothing more. Using gdrive:/ in Dolphin
>>> lists accounts, but accessing them fails with "unknown error". Well, no
>>> Hangouts available here. Do I miss some required package? KDE on-line
>>> accounts allow me to add Google, ownCloud or Twitter. Nothing else.
>>> I looked at https://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Telepathy but telepathy-kde
>>> doesn't
>>> exist anymore (https://software.opensuse.org/search doesn't find it).
>>> Wasn't Telepathy responsible for the chatting part of KDE on-line
>>> accounts? Do we have anything working based on Telepathy (Empathy?)?
>>> I tried Kopete. It doesn't seem to be very maintained either (in KDE3 and
>>> 4 it used to be my favorite chatting application) and since the antispam
>>> module is missing, bots are very annoying there. Hangouts doesn't work
>>> there and the application is frequently crashing (when editing account
>>> settings, removing contacts, etc). Is it worth of reporting?
>>> I tried Pidgin, but Hangouts didn't work for me and its privacy/antispam
>>> settings doesn't work very well.
>>> Finally I tried YakYak https://github.com/yakyak/yakyak It seems to be
>>> working well, but it can use only one Google Hangouts account (I need
>>> two) and nothing else.
>>> So do we have among our packages anything reliably working with Google
>>> Hangouts? I don't prefer to use it through web browser as I use KMail (so
>>> no webmail) and generally rather desktop clients. Full integration into
>>> KDE would also be nice, but I need at least anything working...
>>
>> I use konversation, the KDE IRC client together with
>> https://github.com/mtomwing/pickups for the Hangouts connection and
>> https://www.bitlbee.org/ for some other services. I have hopes on
>> http://matrix.org/ providing even better and more integrations in the
>> future.
>> https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/network:messaging:matrix
>> provides the development project for server and client packages. E.g.
>> matrix-quaternion is a Qt client which should at least integrate
>> somewhat into a plasma session.
> 
> As I also use Konversation, this is very interesting concept to try. So I have
> to install bitlbee (it seems it should have Google Hangouts support) or matrix
> server and then use Konversation or Quaternion to access the Hangouts?
> Especially for the Matrix I'm still bit confused how it works regarding
> Hangouts, where is my password traveling around and so on...

With konversation I currently connect to IRC servers, a local pickups 
session for Hangouts and a remote bitlbee instance. I am not directly 
using Matrix in this setup. However, I use the android app "Riot" to 
connect over the matrix.org server to the freenode IRC rooms I am also 
in with konversation.
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