Re: [WBEL-users] connect to internet

At Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) [email protected] wrote:

> 
> here is the kicker
> did a /sbin/lspci
> result list was
> etc0: Broadcom corperation BCM440 110/100 Mbps PCI(rev 02)
> modem: Broadcom corperation BCM4212 v.90 56k modem (rev 02)
> 
> so i was sorta right that modem and ethernet are both broadcom
> now than im looking at you said broadcom is supported
> message from earlier the ethernet is recognised
> but not the pci modem
> do i need to change somthing in the probe file to get
> it listed in there at startup. because it obviously see's it
> but dosnt load driver, right?

The modem is probably a 'controllerless modem' -- it is modem missing a
$5 chip  -- these modems use the main processor (typically a $100+
chip) to do the work of the missing $5 chip (and do so ineffiently). 
These 'controllerless modems' need a special driver.  The companies
that make these (crap) modems afraid someone will 'steal' their tech if
they published the modem I/O specs.  Therefore there are no Open
Source drivers form most of them -- there isn't a driver included in
your Linux distro.  You can either down load [a closed source] one and
'taint' your kernel OR you can just buy a 'real' modem.  Something like
this (or something similar):

http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=7&subcategory=40&product=258

Basically just about any RS232 serial  port modem will work
*out-of-the-box*.

Most often the modem *won't* say they are 'Linux' compatible, but you
can tell anyway.  Check the 'minimum requirements:

486 DX2 or higher (controllerless modems / winmodems won't work on such
		   slow processors)
Works with MS-DOS

Your local Best Buy, etc should have something like this.  About
$50-$60. 

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> Rogue_Spider
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> 
> --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Robert Heller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Robert Heller <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] connect to internet
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: "Rogue Spider" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 7:10 AM
> > At Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > everything i know about my computer is at 
> > >
> > http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=JN1R241&SystemID=DIM_PNT_P4_CEL_2400&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=&impid=
> > > it always came up as Broadcom but it now would appear
> > to be my
> > > modem is a 
> > > Conexant/Asus SmartHSFi V92 56K PCI Modem
> > > I think? nothing on board so only info is on dell
> > site.
> > 
> > If this is a hardware modem (doubtful), you don't need
> > a driver (it will
> > show up as /dev/ttyS<mumble> and would have been
> > auto-detected by kudzu).
> > 
> > It is probably a 'winmodem' and you do indeed need
> > some sort of driver.
> > Visit http://linmodems.org/ to get drivers.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Robert Heller
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Robert Heller <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] connect to internet
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:00 PM
> > > > At Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ok lets start with what i have
> > > > > a modem which says eth0 - showing up as
> > ethernet not
> > > > modem
> > > > > an isp with a phone number.
> > > > 
> > > > Do you have a make/model of this device (pci
> > card?
> > > > Motherboard?)?
> > > > 
> > > > If you have a laptop with something 'built
> > in' (eg
> > > > a mini-pci card),
> > > > what is the make/model of the laptop?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > in windows i install Broadcom BCM 4401
> > driver
> > > > > it goes in as ethernet and modem
> > > > > 
> > > > > i dont know what to do now to get you what u
> > need to
> > > > > help me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > if you tell me how to get the info to help
> > you help me
> > > > > ill get it best i can muddle through but ill
> > get it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Vic
> > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Vic <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [WBEL-users] connect to
> > internet
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008,
> > 10:22 AM
> > > > > > > I think i know the problem im just
> > stupid...
> > > > > > > Yes your right took me 2 days but
> > yes it
> > > > native
> > > > > > support
> > > > > > > says it does see my ethernet card
> > broadcom
> > > > bcm 44x
> > > > > > > and the drivers are there
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Right - so we don't need any more
> > fussing
> > > > with that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > but i dont have an ethernet
> > connection
> > > > > > > i have a modem connection
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Which modem do you have?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > its both my ethernet and modem
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've seen dual modem/ethernet
> > PCMCIA cards in
> > > > the dim
> > > > > > and distant past - I
> > > > > > very much doubt you have one of those.
> > So I'm
> > > > really
> > > > > > not sure what you're
> > > > > > telling us.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To reiterate from my last post: what
> > kit do you
> > > > have, and
> > > > > > how are you
> > > > > > trying to connect them up?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > so i tryed to tell it
> > > > > > > to use it as ppp and anything that
> > may be
> > > > usefull and
> > > > > > > not getting anywere
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The chances are that you're not
> > getting
> > > > anywhere
> > > > > > because you're jumping to
> > > > > > erroneous conclusions. You've
> > already wasted
> > > > a load of
> > > > > > your time messing
> > > > > > about with Broadcom drivers that simply
> > > > aren't
> > > > > > necessary; now you're
> > > > > > trying to build PPP links, and I've
> > a feeling
> > > > > > that's the wrong thing to be
> > > > > > trying at this stage as well.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3 days like this and im still
> > dumb.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tell us what is happening, not what you
> > think it
> > > > means.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Vic.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
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