Re: Had Mj2 Development stalled ... ?

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- --On Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:47:41 -0800 Tech at e-AA <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Though my email address says "tech," I'm not much of a techie. But I would
> like to offer a few comments.
>
> A release would be great for Mj2.
>
> I use the Ensim control panel and frequently visit and use their forums
> (http://forum.ensim.com). There are tens of thousands of folks using Ensim.
> Ensim offers Majordomo 1.94.5 as part of its installation, but people have
> been begging for a few years now, at least, for something different.
>
> It isn't that Mj1 is bad! I host domains running probably several hundred
> lists now, and most of them are Mj1. It's great for simple lists, and
> especially for folks who have never done any listkeepering before. But I
> love Mj2 for complex stuff. Sadly, I think I'm about the only one who's
> figured out how to install Mj2 on Ensim-run servers -- and I'm nowhere near
> being server-savvy. I've posted a how-to in the Ensim forums, but I must
> have gotten something wrong because others who try it don't have much luck.
>
> The main reason more people aren't using Mj2, as has been noted, is it's
> almost impossible to find, and those who do find it think that it's not yet
> suitable for a production enviornment. Plus, "Mailman" is everywhere so
> that's the word people most often use. People want that web interface.
> Otherwise Mj1 would be just fine for most lists. And, being somewhat
> familiar with Mailman, it seems to me Mj2 is far superior in many, many
> ways.

My big beef against mailman is I *hate* their admin interface ... I love that I 
can go into Mj2's with ALL and moderator *all* of the PostgreSQL mailing lists, 
I don't have to go into each one seperately, re login each time to do it ...

Even my brief experiences with the CLI for Mailman left me with a bad taste in 
my mouth ... Mj2 has a *fantastic* help system built right into the CLI ... 
almost overwhelming at times ...

Does anyone on this list have 'web design abilities'??  If we are going to 
"market" this, we need two things:

	1. a proper, professional looking web site
	2. a proper release of v1.0

The other thing that we need is a logo ... so we need someone with some 
graphics ability to create that ...

I really don't want to see Majordomo2 go the way of Betamax ... the better 
technology *should* be used, not discarded :(

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