Re: Continuing the 'Not Training' trend --> bug in mailfilter.crm(?)

"Ger Hobbelt" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.mail.spam.crm114
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Roy Rapoport
<crm114-general-EDIPJi/UwPibxcUVhEV9z9i2O/[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the incredibly informative response, Ger.
>
>  You know, it's interesting -- I started using CRM114 a long time ago when
>  Crash announced on a social mailing list he'd come up with it.  It was
>  incredibly effective and, more importantly, easy to use.  That was a
>  winning combination.
>
>  When dealing with my personal email, I tend to try to actually mostly act
>  like a user rather than a geek, and I just don't have the time these days
>  to start mucking around with my spam filter to make it work appropriately.
>  I'm saddened to see that CRM114 has not gotten simpler or more predictably
>  easy to use, update, and maintain :(.
>
>  At this point, given that after the recent upgrade I'm seeing large spam
>  volumes and retraining is now significantly impaired, I'm worried I may
>  need to abandon CRM114 in favor of something else that will work without me
>  pathing the source.  What are the odds that this will be fixable via a
>  standard system update ('yum update...') anytime soon?

Didn't know about 'yum', but now I saw it up on Wikipedia I'd say that
depends on the Linux distro package maintainers. Bill regularly
publishes .tar.gz distributables which are at the core of such rpm
packages; I publish an experimental GNU ./configure-able derivative of
Bill's.

Oh shucks, doing the long answer again. Well, to cut the story short:
"it depends".
Generally, rpm packages list their maintainer's email or other contact
info, so bringing him/her into the loop here might help.

Not very helpful answer, I know, but I don't know everyone who's doing
rpm's and stuff for crm114, so...


And about the spam trouble: of course I like crm114 very much - it's
the only one that has proven to work well for my purposes - so I may
be accused of 'biased opinion' here, but from the reports about
trouble with other spam packages that I hear from my neighbourhood, I
don't think anybody else is any luckier. I guess the spam boys are
getting smarter and that means it's a little harder to fight them off
than it was, say, 4 years ago. Which includes tuning our engines, and,
well, you know what can happen to those tuned cars, right? Sometimes,
they blow a gasket.

Thank you, Ger, for spoiling my day again.
And the good news? We're improving crm114, yes sir! I regret the few
lurking bugs that show up due to these changes, but I'm glad it's only
very few.
Most of the noise on this list (also coming from me) is about the
'experimental' classifiers which nobody uses except some gourmets,
which may skew your opinion there.



-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten / Best regards,

Ger Hobbelt

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