Re: Bounce back email: Website link for 212.159.14.133

Hi Alexey,

I have had contact from the support team at my ISP (plusnet) who said:

"Our networks team are in the process of requesting the removal of our  
relay server from the DSBL listing, unfortunatly due to the volume of  
mail sent trough our servers we do get added to the multihop blacklist  
frequently so although we will be removed from the listing you may want  
to request that your contact uses the scoring system rather than the  
multihop or unconfirmed listings."

Alexey, I have copied the intended recipient of the bounced email with  
this latest update for his reference. Chris, please read Alexey's note  
below for your reference.


Cheers,
Doug



> Hello.
>
> On 10/05/06 00:22, Doug wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> I have just asked the recipient of the email that was bounced what he  
>> is blocking and his reply is as follows:
>> Doug,
>>  I have just looked on my mail system and I am not blocking multihop  
>> or unconfirmed! I am only using list.dsbl.org. so it would be worth  
>> getting back in touch with dsbl and letting them know this.
>>  Please let me know your thoughts on this?
>
> I think that your recipient slightly mistakes. "Multihop" database is  
> definitely used for filtering in their mail system.
>
> Nevertheless, the main practical proposal is still the same: your ISP  
> should clean the DSBL record related to their mailserver. In practice,  
> very many postmasters worldwide use this "multihop" absolutely  
> intentionally, with clear understanding of all adverse effects.
>
> Alexey
>
>
>>     Hello.
>>     On 09/05/06 17:10, Doug wrote:
>>         Please help if you can,
>>         I had a bounce back email sent to someone who's server checks
>>         emails against listings at dsbl. The bounce back said the IP
>>         address is blacklisted. I use Plusnet a my ISP. The details  
>> are
>>         as follows are at http://dsbl.org/listing?212.159.14.133
>>         Having checked this with the support team at Plusnet they say
>>         "The person who you are sending mails to is using a bad form  
>> of
>>         practise by blocking all multihop ip's
>>     Partially correct. From one side, DSBL really does not recommend  
>> to
>>     use "multihop" database for instant mail rejection, and recommends
>>     to use it in scoring systems instead. From the other side, this
>>     "multihop" listing reflects a *real* spam and security problem
>>     related to 212.159.14.133 aka pih-relay06.plus.net. And the judge
>>     comparing arguments is your recipient's Postmaster, and not  
>> Plusnet
>>     support.
>>         we would not be able to progress this being removed Please  
>> advise.
>>         Listed in multihop (multihop.dsbl.org): yes"
>>         Can you tell me how I can get the address removed from the  
>> list
>>     Your first action was absolutely correct: this problem can and
>>     should be solved by your ISP Postmasters or network security team.
>>         as I need be able to send emails to my recipient.
>>     In addition, you may try to contact your recipient or your
>>     recipient's Postmaster and try to convince them that their  
>> filtering
>>     policy is too strict. I.e., I myself use "multihop" database for
>>     home e-mail only.
>>     Alexey
>>     DSBL volunteer
>>         Verdana
>>         Thanks
>>         *Doug Benson
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Thanks
Doug Benson

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