Re: Death penalty

> It's not an "attitude," it's a fact. Just because you don't like a
> fact, that doesn't make it subjective.
>
> **oh bullshit.  It is not a fact at all, it is a theory and an ideology.
> Unless you and I are in really distant places aboput what a fact is....

Indeed, Karl. The thousands of years of recorded history wherein
killing begat killing is certainly a testament to your position... oh,
wait...

***and uh wtf are YOU talking about?


>> Sure, let's make the standard that if
>> you kill, you get to be fed and housed forever.
>
> It's not the humanitarian feeding and housing that acts a deterrent,
> it's the incarceration, reduction of rights, and limitations of
> freedom. Acting like animals doesn't contribute to solution, it only
> perpetuates the problem.
>
> **sure, imprisonment is a deterrent, see how well it has stopped drug
> crimes?

Indeed, see how well the death penalty has stopped murder?

**It has I have read studies that prove it.  And you have likely read them
that prove opposite.  Meaning the issue is in doubtr, or is likely tainted
bt predisposition.

>> *** the biggest block to it providing deterrence is
>> really the fact that it is not a realistic punishment
>> with the decades of appeals and legal bs.
>
> I wonder how realistic it seemed to the 45 murdered by the state so
> far this year.
>
> **sad.  Just sad.

Yes, very.

***I meant you, as you well know.
 

>> ***But I will say that if the only thing it actually deters
>> is one bastard from killing again, it is fine with me.
>
> That's a reprehensible and offensive position.
>
> ***yea, preventing innocents from being murdered is so damn digusting.

There is no way of preventing innocents from being murdered, and you
know that as well as i do.

**sure there are, you just cannot stomach them.


 If you can point to a method of prevention
that has resulted in such, please point to it. if you can't, then
please shut the fuck up about it.

**We just had a home invasion here locally where the homeowner killed one
invader and drove off the others.  Id say that deterred the hell out of his
family being murdered.

**Shut the fuck up yourself, your condescending bullshit is getting really
annoying.


>> **So justice is truly hollow?
>
> Justice is what it is. Assigning values to it is unhelpful and irrelevant.
>
> **Killing a murderer is justice.  The bible says so.

The Bible says a lot of things. Are you prepared to submit that
eveything the Bible "says" is justice? A simple "yes" or "no" is
required.

***Ah, so only PCG gets to selectively quote.

**Hypocriyte.


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