Re: Death penalty

>> It's not an "attitude," it's a fact. Just because you don't like a
>> fact, that doesn't make it subjective.
>>
>> **oh bullshit.  It is not a fact at all, it is a theory and an ideology.
>> Unless you and I are in really distant places aboput what a fact is....

Oh, really? Murder has ceased in area where capital punoshment is in effect?
I wasnt aware of that.

> Indeed, Karl. The thousands of years of recorded history wherein
> killing begat killing is certainly a testament to your position... oh,
> wait...
>
> ***and uh wtf are YOU talking about?

I'm talking about the thousands of years of evidence which shows that
capital punishment doesn't prevent murder.

> Indeed, see how well the death penalty has stopped murder?
>
> **It has I have read studies that prove it.  And you have likely read them
> that prove opposite.  Meaning the issue is in doubtr, or is likely tainted
> bt predisposition.

It has? Well, please link to those studies. I'd be pleased to review them.

>>> *** the biggest block to it providing deterrence is
>>> really the fact that it is not a realistic punishment
>>> with the decades of appeals and legal bs.
>>
>> I wonder how realistic it seemed to the 45 murdered
>> by the state so far this year.
>>
>> **sad.  Just sad.
>
> Yes, very.
>
> ***I meant you, as you well know.

What is sad about me? The fact that I give a shit about the 45 people
who've been murdered this year? That's sad to you, is it?

>>> ***But I will say that if the only thing it actually deters
>>> is one bastard from killing again, it is fine with me.
>>
>> That's a reprehensible and offensive position.
>>
>> ***yea, preventing innocents from being murdered is so damn digusting.
>
> There is no way of preventing innocents from being murdered, and you
> know that as well as i do.
>
> **sure there are, you just cannot stomach them.

Fascinating! Please explicate. I wasn't aware that there was a way of
preventing people from being murdered. I expect myself and most of the
civilized world will be quite anxious to hear about it.

>  If you can point to a method of prevention
> that has resulted in such, please point to it. if you can't, then
> please shut the fuck up about it.
>
> **We just had a home invasion here locally where the homeowner killed one
> invader and drove off the others.  Id say that deterred the hell out of his
> family being murdered.

Well, that's a marvelous story. I'm not sure what it has to do with
anything we're talking about, but if it distracts you from the issue
at hand, fair enough.

> **Shut the fuck up yourself, your condescending bullshit is getting really
> annoying.

Excellent point. I'll take it under consideration.

(Oh, wait... my level of annoying has nothing to do with fact or
fiction, right or wrong, does it? Nevermind, then. I guess your
position will be held to account, after all.)

>> **Killing a murderer is justice.  The bible says so.
>
> The Bible says a lot of things. Are you prepared to submit that
> eveything the Bible "says" is justice? A simple "yes" or "no" is
> required.
>
> ***Ah, so only PCG gets to selectively quote.

Nope. quote all you like. Just make a case of it, that's all.

> **Hypocriyte.

Sticks and stones, my friend.

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