batman villains (was: Armond White)

On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Karl wrote:
> The thing is that Nicholson had to play a straight villain first, then 
> transition to the role via the accident, whereas Ledger had the 
> transmuted role from the start.

Ah, that *is* an interesting point.

> So what is your take on Hathaway being tagged for catwomen in the next 
> one?

Depends what Chris Nolan plans to do with the character, really.  I'm more 
intrigued by the fact that Tom Hardy is playing Bane, a character who 
wasn't even invented until 1993 (and who previously appeared in that 1997 
movie with George Clooney and Arnold Schwarzenegger).  Most of Nolan's 
supervillain choices have been of a certain ... vintage.

FWIW, the first appearances of each movie's villain, as per Wikipedia:

    Batman Begins:
    -- Joe Chill -- 1939 (first named in 1948)
    -- The Scarecrow -- 1941
    -- Ra's al Ghul -- 1971
    -- Carmine Falcone -- 1987

    The Dark Knight:
    -- The Joker -- 1940
    -- Two-Face -- 1942

    The Dark Knight Rises:
    -- Catwoman -- 1940
    -- Bane -- 1993

Am I missing any?

Anyway, as you can see, most of the previous villains have dated to the 
1940s or even earlier, with the noteworthy exception of Ra's al Ghul, who 
was a creation of the 1970s.  Carmine Falcone was created in the late 
1980s, true, but he's just a mafia don, not a supervillain per se, and 
they could just as easily have had some other mafia don in Batman Begins.

Bane, by way of contrast, is a full-blown supervillain -- the man who 
literally broke Batman's back, in fact -- and he didn't even appear in the 
comics until after Tim Burton had directed the first two movies.  All of 
the other villains -- even Falcone -- date to the pre-movie era.

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