Re: Just as I thought

Paul Christian Glenn <[email protected]> Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:55:57 -0500
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Been following this thread only intermittently, so forgive if this has already been addressed.

Do you feel that Ebert has a particular responsibility to be sensitive because he is a famous personality? Would it have been a non-issue if I had posted the same comment on my Facebook page?



On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Mike Findlay <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow, that's a real courageous stance for Roger there.  He's against drunk 
> driving deaths.  He's a regular voice crying in the wilderness.
> 
> C'mon Johne, you impress me as a sensitive guy, (and I mean that in the best 
> possible way).  Does Ebert being "right" about the evils of drunk driving make 
> the post defensible?  It was a completely unnecessary cheap shot.  
> 
> 
> Mike F.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Johne Cook <[email protected]>
> To: DADL (off topic) <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 8:34:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Just as I thought
> 
> What exactly is the proper time to be critical of a likely drunken driving
> death, taking another life with his?
> 
> Roger may have been an insensitive a$$, but I don't think he was wrong.
> 
> Johne Cook
> | http://raygunrevival.com | http://authorculture.blogspot.com |*
> *
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Mike Findlay <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> Timing is everything.  He was an asshole for tweeting that when he did; it
>> didn't and doesn't concern him and to stick his half a face, (I'm not wrong
>> am
>> I? He does have only half a face - granted it is a result of a terrible
>> disease
>> - nonetheless it is true), in there the way he did was mean spitited.
>> Obviously
>> that's my opinion, but it coincides with the other impressions I have of
>> him
>> -arrogant, narcissistic and narrow minded.
>> 
>> Mike F.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Johne Cook <[email protected]>
>> To: DADL (off topic) <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:40:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] Just as I thought
>> 
>> Roger explains:
>> http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2011/06/_bam_margera_i_just_lost.html
>> 
>> Again, was what he actually said wrong? I don't think so. Insensitive,
>> perhaps, but my tolerance for drunk drivers is nil. If he was some average
>> Joe driving drunk, he was a jackass. If he was a celebrity driving drunk
>> whom many people genuinely liked, guess what? Still a jackass.
>> 
>> Ebert was perhaps crass for pointing out the truth, but that makes the
>> truth
>> no less relevant. Sorry he's dead and that his passenger paid the ultimate
>> price for taking that ride with him. Still, he had a history of driving too
>> fast, and he'd been drinking before he left the bar. Roger's not a villain
>> in my book for commenting on that.
>> 
>> Johne Cook
>> | http://raygunrevival.com | http://authorculture.blogspot.com |*
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Geerdes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Mike Findlay <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I saw that Ebert doubled down.
>>> 
>>> Well, it seems that he meant it in the way I originally interpreted it.
>>> 
>>>> He regrets if his tweet was taken as cruel.  Nothing more
>>> weaselly/assholish
>>>> than the non-apology apology.
>>> 
>>> I'd think it more weaselly to offer an insincere apology. He stands by
>>> what he said, he's sorry people thought it cruel, he didn't mean it
>>> that way, what more can he say?
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