Re: RE: Power Supply

On 10/11/01 5:34 PM, "Sean Adams" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Great!  This is very useful feedback, and I'd like to reproduce your
> setup if possible.
> 
> Are these machines doing any routing or bridging? I can't see how the
> wildcard IP address would be a problem - when the server receives a
> packet, it replies to the same ip:port that originated it. Unless there's
> something broken in your routing setup, I can't see how binding to a
> particular interface should make a difference.
> 
> Anyway, I'm very pleased to hear that the player is now working correctly.
> Thank you for troubleshooting this - it's very helpful information.
> 
> regarding the jumping - there may have been some issues with 1.5
> handling packet loss incorrectly. However, I know that 1.0.1 did not have
> that problem. Didn't you say you were also seeing this behavior before
> you went to 1.5?
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
> 
>> Success!
>> 
>> I eventually found the problem, the server doesn't like multihomed machines.
>> It seems to be quite happy to receive stuff from the unit (hence why it took
>> the IR signals) but it seems less happy to send stuff back out. I have the
>> unit plugged in directly via a crossover cable into a NIC card in the
>> machine and I also have a wireless card in the machine which puts it on my
>> network. I disabled the wireless card, and then it worked. I tested this on
>> my Mac (which also has a wireless card and built in ethernet) and it has the
>> same problem.
>> 
>> I've since renabled the wireless card and added a
>> 
>> LocalAddr => '192.168.0.30',
>> 
>> line to server.pl where it creates the UDP connection in sub main. That
>> makes sure it's binding to the right card and everything is sweet. Might
>> want to consider adding that to 1.6 code as a config option as well as the
>> other line I sent you.
>> 
>> Plus, and this is the really good bit, no more jumping. Not a thing. It
>> sounds perfect in fact. Now why it's all of a sudden working (still with the
>> 4.5V power supply) is beyond me but I'm not going to argue.
>> 
>> Fingers crossed it lasts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Smith
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 12 October 2001 00:06
>>> To: Richard Smith
>>> Subject: RE: Power Supply
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, we definitely need to do some more work on the Windows side. Any
>>> chance you can run this on your MacOSX machine?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Looking at the output in debug mode it looks like some places
>>> are trying to
>>>> access double paths. For instance, rather than...
>>>> 
>>>> c:\soundmusic\Andy Sturmer demos\Widowers song.mp3
>>>> 
>>>> It's getting...
>>>> 
>>>> c:\soundmusic\c:\soundmusic\Andy Sturmer demos\Widowers song.mp3
>>>> 
>>>> So it can't open the MP3 file.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: 11 October 2001 23:54
>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>> Subject: RE: Power Supply
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm.. try pressing 'disp' to switch from id3 to filename display.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, running the version in the CVS now. Still getting no tracks
>>>>> displayed on
>>>>>> the screen (I didn't get any with 1.0.1 either) but everything
>>>>> else appears
>>>>>> on the screen fine (the message that it's started up etc) and
>>>>> IR signals are
>>>>>> still being sent back to the server (as I can see them in
>>> debug mode).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Richard Smith
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>> Sent: 11 October 2001 23:34
>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Power Supply
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I definitely would recommend against using 1.5. It was a
>>> development
>>>>>>> release only, that's why it's only posted on the
>>>>> sourcefceforge site. If
>>>>>>> you want to run anything other than 1.0.1, you should use the
>>>>> current code
>>>>>>> in CVS. Like I was saying, it's the most tested code, andit's
>>>>> almost ready
>>>>>>> for the 1.6 stable release.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've got 1.5 up and running now, after throwing in MP3-Tag and
>>>>>>> fixing the
>>>>>>>> problem with the ini file. However, while the unit is sending
>>>>>>> back IR codes
>>>>>>>> to the server (I have the server in debug mode and can see
>>>>> I'm browsing
>>>>>>>> through the tracks) no track info appears on the unit's
>>>>> screen (although
>>>>>>>> everything else does, status messages and such like) and
>>>>> nothing starts
>>>>>>>> playing when I hit play.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is this a known issue with the 1.5 code?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 October 2001 23:15
>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Power Supply
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OK, you may want to try checking out the current code
>>>>> from sourceforge
>>>>>>>>> CVS. We're almost to a stable 1.6 release, and I think some
>>>>>>> of the Win2K
>>>>>>>>> issues have been resolved now.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I hope we can find out soon whether your player is ok. I'd
>>>>>>> hate to have
>>>>>>>>> you going through all this troubleshooting with a possibly
>>>>>>> damaged unit.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have found one that does 5V, I'm just waiting to get it.
>>>>>>> It's not a
>>>>>>>>>> standard voltage over here, most do 4.5, 6, 7 but not 5. The
>>>>>>>>> one I'm getting
>>>>>>>>>> was the most expensive they did (and they had loads of
>>>>>>> different types)
>>>>>>>>>> because it was the only one that did 5V.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using it at 4.5V at the moment, like I said
>>> before, where
>>>>>>>>> it comes on
>>>>>>>>>> but has sound that goes silent. I'm just setting it
>>> all up so
>>>>>>>>> when I do get
>>>>>>>>>> the 5V supply, everything will be ready. Unfortunately I've
>>>>>>>>> moved from using
>>>>>>>>>> OS X as the server to Win2k, and there's bugs in the 1.5
>>>>>>>>> release that stop
>>>>>>>>>> it from working out of the box, so I'm currently
>>>>> tweaking the code.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 October 2001 22:59
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Power Supply
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it needs to be 5V regulated. I'm surprised the 5V
>>>>>>>>> supplies are so hard
>>>>>>>>>>> to find - did you try the distributors I sent you? It's a
>>>>>>>>> *very* standard
>>>>>>>>>>> voltage... if you have an electronic surplus store
>>>>>>> nearby, you will
>>>>>>>>>>> definitely be able to find one.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There are some inexpenive power supplies available from
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a 1200ma, 6V regulated power supply here.
>>>>>>> Would that work?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a 5V dealer sourced, but not sure when they
>>>>>>> can get me it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 October 2001 20:09
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK I'll see if I can find a 4.5V supply and
>>> try it out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 October 2001 19:22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the behavior change if you bend the PCB
>>>>>>> slightly in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Going silent briefly (very briefly,
>>> like a quarter
>>>>>>>>> of a second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or less) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeming to keep time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And unfortunately I don't have a voltmeter
>>>>> I can test it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on. And I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if its something I can lay my hands on
>>>>>>> from someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you had a 4.5V power supply, you
>>> could see if you
>>>>>>>>>>> got the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symptoms...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams
>>> [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 October 2001 18:52
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry you're having so many
>>> problems with the
>>>>>>>>>>> player. It may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be the power supply - I've never
>>>>> tested it on
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.5V, and it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely out of spec for some of the chips.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When it blips, is it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - going silent briefly, but seeming
>>> to keep time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - skipping ahead a little, like a CD
>>>>> player might skip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - making a "squeaking" sound, like rubbing a
>>>>>>> guitar string
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is probably the same
>>> issue that was
>>>>>>>>> causing no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're hearing squeaks now, it means there
>>>>>>> are errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the MPEG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stream. It is most likely one of the
>>> connections
>>>>>>>>> between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xilinx and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SRAM (on the other side of the board).
>>>>>>> It's definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a buffering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem - if the buffer runs empty it
>>>>> will just stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also the player
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovers from lost packets, so it's
>>> not possible
>>>>>>>>> to get any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stream due to network issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a voltmeter? It would be really
>>>>>>>>> helpful to know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the power supply is putting out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, we're heading towards success here.
>>>>> I reheated
>>>>>>>>>>> the pins on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the DAC on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday and got another power supply
>>>>> today. So it
>>>>>>>>>>> was time to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This time the power supply is definetely
>>>>>>>>> regulated, still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only 4.5V, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1200ma. Plug everything in, run the
>>> server, and
>>>>>>>>>>> boom, we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time. This is of course a great
>>>>>>> improvement. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every now and again the music jumps.
>>>>> Like a little
>>>>>>>>>>> blip. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a uniform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blip, sometimes it's every couple
>>> of seconds,
>>>>>>>>> sometimes it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes 10 or 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds before doing it. But it does it on
>>>>>>> every MP3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the most likely cause of this? Not
>>>>>>>>> enough voltage? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply increase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a buffer in the Perl script so it
>>> buffers more?
>>>>>>>>> (I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other network
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems btw).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams
>>>>> [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 29 September 2001 00:35
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running out of ideas here - I'm
>>>>>>> pretty sure if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were to reheat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each pin on the DAC, it would
>>> work. I'm not
>>>>>>>>> ruling out the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power supply,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it just seems unlikely if everything
>>>>> else on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> board is working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get a buzzing when you press on the
>>>>>>>>> chip (assuming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's not because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're touching leads) then something has
>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> come loose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Richard Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just checked some more, when I
>>> press on the
>>>>>>>>>>> right hand side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the chip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (looking at the player from the front)
>>>>>>> it buzzes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But not when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I press it on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left, then it's silent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams
>>>>>>> [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 29 September 2001 00:04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You hear feedback? Or a buzzing sound?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's something else to try:
>>>>> play an MP3 of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> known length and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it takes to finish. This will
>>> tell if the
>>>>>>>>>>> MPEG decoder is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct data. If there are
>>> errors in the
>>>>>>>>>>> stream, or it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zeroes, then the data will be consumed
>>>>>>>>> much faster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If data is being consumed at
>>> the correct
>>>>>>>>>>> rate, then the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *only* possibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the DAC (or its connections to the
>>>>>>>>>>> MAS3507D). If we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> narrow it down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this, then it should be a very
>>>>>>> minor repair -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably one pin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the DAC is not stuck to
>>> the board well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW I tested all the players
>>> before final
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembly, and again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping. I even did extra
>>> testing on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas shipments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (flexing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boards, running them an extra
>>> couple of
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes). I'm very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprised by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, but I think it will be an easy
>>>>>>>>> repair if you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handy with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soldering iron.  Otherwise I
>>> can repair
>>>>>>>>> it (I'll pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping) but I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate to do that because of
>>> how long the
>>>>>>>>>>> shipping takes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, do you have a way of
>>>>> checking the power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply voltage?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Richard
>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried that. I can cause
>>> feedback through
>>>>>>>>>>> the speakers by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing on it, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no sound. It doesn't look damaged
>>>>>>> either, none
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flexing the board and pushing the
>>>>>>> other chips as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure they were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still nothing. Also tried different
>>>>>>> RCA leads
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line in on a PC as well as
>>> the stereo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 28 September 2001 23:09
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm... very strange. I
>>> hope it wasn't
>>>>>>>>> damaged in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trip across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pond.  If the lights are
>>>>> blinking and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything looks OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound, then the problem
>>> is probably
>>>>>>>>> the DAC. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8-pin chip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to the RCA connectors. Try
>>>>>>> pressing on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it gently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also try very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gently flexing the board at
>>>>> the middle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Richard
>>>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would stop the
>>> player giving
>>>>>>>>> sound output?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could that be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side effect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a wrong power supply?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's doing everything else
>>>>>>> great, setup was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine, server is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running and it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to it and browsing,
>>>>>>>>> server log says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things are being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> played, light
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is flashing as if it's
>>>>>>> receiving - but no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very strange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 28 September 2001 22:03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK just make sure the 4.5V is
>>>>>>> regulated -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test it with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voltmeter if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're unsure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Richard
>>>>>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I managed to find ones with
>>>>>>> the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connector, the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voltage, never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right ma. But you saying
>>>>>>>>> that 4.5V might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work and I only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really needed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700ma made me go try
>>>>> the 4.5V/750ma
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply I had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works a treat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now to go play. :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thought anymore
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sean Adams
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:sadams-C+JAmueIyFXt/WbtSZLAmwC/[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 28
>>> September 2001 21:37
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: your mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, I can send you the
>>>>>>> 110V power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very economical, with
>>>>> shipping. A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.5V regulated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, but
>>> definitely don't use
>>>>>>>>>>> anything >5V.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A quick google
>>> search found a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple of mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order shops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the UK:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.clairtronic.co.uk/9039.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part number 2000,
>>> 2001, 2002
>>>>>>>>> - not sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which has the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right connector.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bullnet.co.uk/shops/test/psuand.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The NPSU27 has adjustable
>>>>>>> voltage and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interchangeable DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.transformersareus.co.uk/adaptors.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No prices or connector
>>>>>>> sizes listed...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note if the power rating
>>>>>>> is >1000ma,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's okay too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it only has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me 700ma or more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep
>>> 2001, Richard
>>>>>>>>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got the
>>> SliMP3 (number 43
>>>>>>>>> if you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delivered to me on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday,
>>> without the power
>>>>>>>>>>> supply because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UK and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't get them. Well
>>>>>>>>> I've spent the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last two days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't get them either.
>>>>>>> Went to RS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Components,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who basically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electrical related item
>>>>>>>>>>> available in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, and they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power supply
>>> which is 5V and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1000ma. In fact,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they hardly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is 5V as in
>>>>> this country,
>>>>>>>>>>> it's totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-standard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty 4.5V,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plenty 6 and
>>> 7V, very few 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would have
>>> been easier
>>>>>>>>> is if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just sent out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the US power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to people
>>>>> and they just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got a stepdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it to plug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into so it got the
>>>>> 110V in it
>>>>>>>>>>> expected. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have three of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them just lying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around because I import
>>>>>>>>> consoles from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Japan, and they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy to get at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any electrical place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is there any
>>>>> chance you can
>>>>>>>>>>> send the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power supply to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me so I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually use the
>>>>> thing, as at
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's useless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Don't know who I am?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Visit the new
>>>>> Square Eight,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.squareeight.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Sean,
    I don't know if your question about MacOSX for Richard was a specific
problem or if you were just asking in general. I thought I would let you
know that I am running the 1.5 code on my MacOSX 10.1 box with no problems
so far.

Ron


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