Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...

Vitor Rua <[email protected]> Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:13:28 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.music.john-cage
Message-ID <[email protected]>
you are absolutly right dear mark... best regards... vitor rua


On 25 Oct 2011, at 23:07, Mark Kolmar wrote:

> All --
>
> I would call 0'00" a composition about compositions, words about  
> music, like a review of a style, or a plea for a kind of music made  
> after the pattern that the score describes. A lot of Fluxus, in  
> practice, ranges from poetry to advice. That is fine and useful.  
> Sometimes I feel that the discussion on these topics falls into  
> semantics as much as concepts.
>
> --Mark
>
> On 10/25/2011 1:40 PM, Rob Haskins wrote:
>> Sorry, I accidentally sent this only to wonderful Vitor:
>>
>> With all due respect to Vitor, I would call 0'00" a composition. It's
>> not conventionally musical, but its instructions (to perform a
>> disciplined action at the highest level of amplification before  
>> feedback
>> occurs) ensure that the piece is about the sounds produced.
>>
>> The concept of organized sound, for Cage, largely disappears once  
>> Cage
>> embraces chance operations. For at this point, any continuity (read:
>> organization) becomes acceptable /(Lecture on Something/).
>>
>> Sorry I can't write more on this at the moment.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rob
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jim Flannery <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>    Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 11:08:00 AM, one wrote:
>>
>>     > if you create organized sound performing 0`00``you are  
>> performing it
>>     > wrong !!!
>>
>>    So when Cage performed the piece, he was doing it wrong?
>>
>>    I think you've under-understood the score.