Re: CFD, EB members and admin votes

On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 10:45:03PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Sa, 2004-07-17 at 22:32, Ben Ullmann wrote:
> > To condense that rather badly worded paragraph. I think that EB members who
> > are  also admins should be allowed to vote as admins of servers since most
> > of the time that is their role and function.
> 
> That's just another point. Are EB members admins most of the time or EB
> members? (I know that's quite off-topic now, but still...)

Well I'd say we are admins like other IRC admins 99.9% of the time.
I can't remember the last time we had traffic on the EB list.

> As EB members they are the most powerful people on Blitzed. In almost
> every aspect -- even on services. They could do things which normal
> admins couldn't (even if it's an akill longer than 6h -- which is
> currently being discussed on the wiki.), and they make use of it.
> 
> They're even subscribed on most team mailing lists and bring their
> opinion into the game.
> 
> This is something which isn't true as options for most admins. From the
> past as an admin I often saw the routing team as a black box, as I just
> didn't know what was going on.

You are mainly talking about me now, but that's not because I am EB,
that's just because I am interested.

If I wasn't welcome on any of those lists then I would unsub and let
them get opn with it.. I only ever give advice and opinions.  I hope
if others were interested then they would be wlecome on those lists
too.

As for having more access to everything, that's just in case that we
need to.  It's definitely not meant to show that we are higher up
than anyone else, I would rather it not be like that and I hope that
Phil and Andryan think the same also.

> I respect them much because of their work for the network and their
> rhetoric powers... they provide valid arguments for every proposal they
> do, and are thus quite able to convince the admin team to vote in
> favour. Just as a side remark. ;o)

Well, thanks.

I still feel it a bit unfair that I, nor Andryan, nor Phil can vote
how we want for the servers we are responsible for.  A lot of the
time I can convince others but sometimes my ideas are radical.
Unless you want to see some overrulings then I really think we
should have votes for our servers.

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