Re: [opennic-discuss] [MISCOUNT][RESULTS] Require English in proposals and votes

I recounted the votes using the mailing list's web interface:

Yes:

Daniel Quintiliani
Jonah Aragon
Allen Schultz
Dennis Emory Hannon
Vladimir F.
Jacob Bachmeyer

No:

Amunak
Megan Parat
Jack Ternan
Sebastian Makowiecki [1]
Ole Juul
kevin
Al Beano [2]

Invalid:

Philipp Schafft

Notes:
[1] Amended vote. They specified that they wanted their vote to matter:
>[...] as long as invalid votes are being accounted for and have a meaning (as in potential effect [...])
And subsequently voted "no". In any case, they seem to be against the proposal as evidenced by their first vote of "Issues".

[2] Amended vote

Totals:
6 Yes, 7 No, 1 Invalid
The proposal doesn't pass.

On a side note,

>Relative counts:
>Yes: 6/14 = ~42.86%; No: 5/14 = ~35.71%; Spoilt: 3/14 = ~21.43%
>
>Therefore:
>Yes wins with highest number of votes.

What's the point of calculating the *percentage* of spoilt votes if we're not using absolute majority ? The number of spoilt votes is fine for having a general idea of the legitimacy of the vote, especially when there's only a handful of voters.

Megan.

On 8/22/18 3:11 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> Good afternoon,
>
> On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 20:53 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
>> Yes (6):
>>
>> Daniel Quintiliani
>> Jonah Aragon
>> Allen Schultz
>> Dennis Emory Hannon
>> Jacob Bachmeyer
>> Vladimir F.
>>
>> No (7):
>>
>> Amunak
>> Megan Parat
>> Jack Ternan
>> Sebastian Makowiecki*
>> vv
>> kevin
>> Al Beano*
>>
>> Invalid votes:
>>
>> Philipp Schafft ("democracy")
>>
>> * changed from invalid vote
>>
>> Proposal failed to pass, 6-7
> I can not second this counting as I come to a different counting.
>
> I count as following:
>
> Yes:
>       * Vladimir F. <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Allen Schultz <[email protected]> in <CAP+RUJfu
>         [email protected]>
>       * Dennis Emory Hannon <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Jacob Bachmeyer <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Jonah Aragon <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Daniel Quintiliani <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>
> No:
>       * Amunak <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Megan Parat <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Jack Ternan <[email protected]> in
>         <trinity-42ea374d-b4f4-49c3-b0ee-10010f652460-1534647456998@3c-app-mailcom-lxa13>
>       * [email protected] in <20180819005723.09dd06b1@SCO>
>       * kevin <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>
> Spoilt:
>       * Philipp Schafft <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Al Beano <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Al Beano <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]> (invalid as
>         double voted)
>       * Sebastian Makowiecki <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]>
>       * Sebastian Makowiecki <[email protected]> in
>         <[email protected]> (invalid as
>         double voted)
>
> Total counts:
> Yes: 6; No: 5; Spoilt: 3; TOTAL: 14
>
> Relative counts:
> Yes: 6/14 = ~42.86%; No: 5/14 = ~35.71%; Spoilt: 3/14 = ~21.43%
>
> Therefore:
> Yes wins with highest number of votes.
>
>
> I ask someone to step up and do a 3rd counting.
>
>
> With best regards,
>
>
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 20:41:29 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Voting starts: 8/15/2018 0040 UTC
>>> Voting ends 8/22/2018 0040 UTC
>>>
>>> 1. All OpenNIC proposals put up for vote shall be in the English language.
>>> 2. All votes for OpenNIC proposals shall be in the English language, and votes which are not in English shall be considered invalid.
>>>
>>> These rules are only applicable to proposals put up for vote, and to the votes themselves. These rules are not applicable to discussions on the mailing list or on IRC.
>>>
>>> The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
>>>
>>> This vote shall be done in "Aye/Yes" and "Nay/No" style. Only English language votes shall be accepted.
>
>
>
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