Re: anti-spam filtering on this list? challenge responses?

[email protected] has been removed.

We can probably all stop talking about this now ;)

-matt


Haudy Kazemi wrote:

>It appears that this issue came up on the swn-talk list a few months ago,
>also in regards to Stephan Verrips' autoresponder.  At the time, Matt W was
>not able to identify Stephan's subscribed email address so as to be able to
>unsubscribe him.  I checked the swn list archives and have found no posts
>by Stephan on swn-talk or swn-dev.
>
>http://www.seattlewireless.net/pipermail/talk/2005-March/thread.html#16893
>http://www.seattlewireless.net/pipermail/talk/2005-March/016889.html
>http://www.seattlewireless.net/pipermail/talk/2005-March/016896.html
>
>Google found these addresses for a 'Stephan Verrips':
>http://lists.nluug.nl/pipermail/wurlug/2004-July/000442.html     stephan at
>verrips.name
>http://lists.nluug.nl/pipermail/wurlug/2005-July/001167.html     stephan at
>verrips.name
>http://thebird.nl/wurlug/wiki.pl?MemberList                      stephan at
>verrips dot com
>Google Groups (old message from ~1999)
>[email protected]
>http://www.samspade.org/t/whois?a=verrips.com&server=magic
>Matt W:  can you check to see if any of these addresses is the one that was
>subscribed to dev and talk?
>
>I have since created a mail filter to throw email from '[email protected]'
>in my junk folder.  I disagree with your statement 'Automated response is a
>tool that people "with responsibilities" use to make sure that those
>emailing them know they aren't being ignored.'  and it appears others do
>too when I look at the archives referenced above.  In this case, Stephan is
>the one being ignored, because his mail is going directly to the junk
>folder of several list subscribers.  Personally, I would feel ignored if I
>emailed someone and then their email system answers me with a form letter
>automatic response.
>
>There are better techniques than C/R systems.  My main point of contention
>is I did not send Stephan any email directly.  The only email I sent went
>to [email protected] and that mailing list server attempted to send a
>message to Stephan.  As I did not email Stephan myself, I do not expect an
>autoreply from his account.  Had I emailed him directly, I would be less
>bothered by this autoreply.  Autoreplies have no place on mailing lists and
>neither list lurkers nor list posters should have to put up with
>autoresponders.
>
>For those who don't like SpamBayes, look at PopFile
>(http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), a different Bayes email filter.
>
>-hk
>
>At 05:32 PM 7/21/2005 -0700, Jason Morton wrote: 
>  
>
>It only replies to the one person that sent it, not the whole list.
>Automated response is a tool that people "with responsibilities" use to
>make sure that those emailing them know they aren't being ignored. 
>  
>Here is a link that actually has something useful, not just eggheads
>dreaming of a computer literate society... SpamBayes
><http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/>http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ .If
>you don't like automated responses you can train it to send it to your junk
>folder. This way you will never have the sorrow of dealing with 1 little
>email. You won't even have to click delete! Fancy that! 
>If we were getting 200 "I'm not ins" then sure that's a problem. One email
>is not a problem and the whole group shouldn't have to change because you
>have enough time to complain! You can always remove yourself from the list,
>that will solve it as well. 
>  
>Jason
>  
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jason Self [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:02 PM
>To: SeattleWireless Development List
>Subject: Re: anti-spam filtering on this list? challenge responses?
>
> I agree. C/R system should NOT be used. The URLs you gave provide perfect
>examples of why.
>  
> For those unfortunate enough to have a C/R system thrust upon them by an
>organization, I feel very sorry for them & agree that something should be
>done with the system to prevent it from willy-nilly responding to each &
>every person on a mailing list. 
>  
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