Re: wifi-plus antennas, was VT problem

Jim Thompson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.wireless.seattle.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Franklin S Werren wrote:
> Here is a good question.... about antennas
> I am also very familiar with the DBS and the older BUD satellite systems
> Why did the 2 DBS companies go with left hand and right hand circularly 
> polarized
> antennas ???

Receiving the signal of a spinning satellite with either a horzontally- 
or vertically-polarized antenna will produce a rapid fading of the downlink.

> And I did not by the over priced circularly polarized antennas that is 
> out there
> for my link... I used the $80 specials 25 db gain antennas...
> and they work even under snow.... unless it is wet....
> And that problem happens on the DBS satellite systems...
> and the Big Ugly Dishes as well.... worse on ku....
> 
> 
> Franklin S. Werren  www.bagpipes.net   www.chautauqualake.net
> 
> My 2 cents: Never get caught between an ISP and a telco in a pissing 
> match!!
>                   The customer looses every time!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Thompson" <[email protected]>
> To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:21 PM
> Subject: Re: wifi-plus antennas, was VT problem
> 
> 
>> David Josephson wrote:
>>
>>> It's too bad that the antenna people in this business so often make 
>>> their case with so much smoke and noise that the average user can't 
>>> tell what's real and what's fluff. Wifi-plus is nothing more or less 
>>> than stacked, radome-enclosed, more or less circularly polarized, 
>>> array antennas such as have been used for FM broadcast for 40 years 
>>> or more. There is some benefit to this, particularly in urban areas, 
>>> but no antenna is magic, and no antenna is going to make pine needles 
>>> and leaves disappear. Any antenna produces "gain" solely by directing 
>>> more of the power you feed it in one direction and less in others; a 
>>> circularly polarized antenna can actually result in lower signal 
>>> strength because part of the signal is radiated in a polarization 
>>> that isn't received by a given, optimal, receiving antenna. Over a 
>>> point-to-point link you're not going to do any better than well 
>>> matched parabolic antennas aligned to the same polarization.
>>
>>
>> Well-said.  Agreed, even.   (Though if you match the polarizaion of 
>> any two antennas, you'll not see the effect you state.)  That, and 
>> you'll need to restrict "do better" to "have more link margin", since 
>> the higher directivity may actually lead to more OBSS interference, 
>> since the other STAs won't see a high-enough signal level to set CCA.
>>
>> But I digress.
>>
>> I was 'holding back' not wanting to provoke a vendor war.
>>
>> There is a *lot* of BS in the wireless world.
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