Re: Nader, Scalia to speak at UVM

Nick Bonfatti <[email protected]> Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:09:24 -0400
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I think Nader should go after the disenfranchised voters.  You know,  
those people that aren't going to vote because their vote doesn't  
count, or they know nothing about the issues.  Then, no one could  
accuse him of spoiling the election!

All he'd need to do, is to star in a movie or two (he could be the  
irate consumer activist - i'm picturing "Falling Down 2 - 2xtreme!"),  
get some pop starlet (say, Lindsey Lohan) to sing "Vote for Nader, he  
really knows how to touch me in my privates!" and blast that commercial  
on MTV non-stop.  The important thing is to NEVER mention the issues,  
and just get these MTVtards to love him.  Hype up the election like its  
American Idol. An extra plus would be that he would get to go to a ton  
of Hollywood parties and junk.


On Oct 7, 2004, at 9:27 AM, Adam Miller wrote:

>> Heads,  can someone get access to this and tape it for me?  I would  
>> like
>> to post a transcript of this somewhere, as well as a copy of the video
>> in its entirety.  Seems like this would be a way to get around the  
>> lack
>> of recording devices allowed.  ??  ideas?
>
> I'm gonna be out of town, otherwise I'd be all over it. I do have one  
> of those mini-recorder things (like the ones in the movies where  
> important people record their thoughts on), but you'd need a pretty  
> nice mic setup or be sitting right next to a speaker to get it with  
> decent quality. My number is 860-1413 if anyone in town is gonna need  
> it, just gimme a call tonight as we're leaving at the ass-crack of  
> dawn tomorrow.
>
>> ps. how was ralph?
>
> Ralph was great, although you'd never know it from the Free Press  
> article (surprise, surprise, a Gannett publication trash-talking  
> Nader...):
>
> http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/bfpnews/news/wednesday/2000h.htm
>
> (I gotta put in the opening paragraph. I wonder which viewpoint the  
> BFP takes on his campaign? I'm glad the press is so fucking neutral  
> these days...)
>
> "Ralph Nader the spoiler, or the political straight arrow, depending  
> on who's offering the description, brought his quixotic presidential  
> campaign to Vermont on Tuesday night."
>
> Arggh...Well, anyway...Ralph was great, as I said before. Contrary to  
> the article, he was a very engaging speaker, refraining from the  
> simplifications and rhetoric that are the corporatist's stock and  
> trade. He spoke about the decline of the will of the government to  
> stand up to insurance and medical companies by really pushing for  
> socialized medicine. He raised the point that that old socialist Dick  
> Nixon's medical plan was actually a whole lot more progressive than  
> John Kerry's current one, which I thought was interesting. He spoke  
> about the Democratic Party's willingness to subvert the democratic  
> process by tying up an economically disadvantaged campaign in the  
> courts in what the Dems have acknowledged are nothing more than  
> diversionary tactics. One thing that bothers me that he DIDN'T say was  
> that the Dems are sure litigious now that a "spoiler is threatening to  
> steal 'their' votes"...Where was that willingness to use the legal  
> system when the Bush Junta stole the whole f
>  ucking election? Anyway...
>
> He spoke about the Dems and Republicans having their three disparate  
> issues (gun control, abortion, and something else - I know, I'm a  
> moron, but I just got up), but being on the same side of many others  
> that affect us much more deeply, e.g. free trade, Israel-Palestine,  
> American globalism, THE IRAQ WAR, blah blah blah...you guys know the  
> list. He talked a lot about the "least-worst" syndrome, where we as a  
> society have been conditioned to accept the least-worst candidate  
> rather than the best, and that America's youth should (and to a  
> greater extent than our older counterparts, DO) expect more.
>
> There were some other good speakers, as well. One guy whose name I  
> don't remember, but Aaron does, I'm sure, was a medical preofessional  
> who had given a speech earlier that day regarding the state of  
> Canada's social health system vs. America's, and he gave a quick  
> summation opening the night, which was great. Basically, Canada's a  
> lot better off and more efficient than the American system, and much  
> of the argumentation put forth against socialized medicine doesn't  
> bear out under the facts and stats. Anthony Pollina also spoke, really  
> well, might I add. Dude's got polish. Anyway, he had a more local,  
> state-size focus, and spoke about the attempt of local farmers to form  
> their own co-op to stand up to the Dallas, TX-based co-op that  
> currently soaks up most of Vermont's dairy. Basically, the legislature  
> approved it, but Jim Douglas vetoed it, but they're coming back again  
> with the same idea, and they need our support. Charlotte, do you know  
> anything about this? You seem to be ou
>  r resident Agro-commie...If anyone does, please give me a heads up as  
> to anything I might be able to do to help out.
>
> All in all, it was a really good night. I broke out before the Q&A  
> period, as I generally despise the moronic questions people ask (yeah,  
> I know, I'm an asshole), so I didn't see it all, though. Aaron and  
> David stuck around longer than me. Aaron also came in later than me,  
> and evidently he saw some Kerry/Edwards folks outside. Thanks for  
> coming, dickheads, we didn't protest your candidate when he came  
> to...oh yeah, KERRY COULD GIVE A SHIT ABOUT VERMONT, AND NEVER CAME,  
> AND NEVER WILL. We couldn't even get a VP candidate's wife, the 2 of  
> diamonds in the campaign PR deck.
>
> OK, Gotta get to work.
>
> -A(m)
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